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Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by cageface »

sridca wrote: post #253
balls187 wrote: post #129

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You're buying into the myth that if it's made of plants, it must be better than meat. The nutrition of Beyond Burger is pretty much on par with the nutrition of beef. I'm not convinced that consuming "plant based alternatives" is a step in the right direction in dealing with health and environment issues especially when compared to more traditional approach like eating balanced meals using a plate model. Eating more…

> Eating more veggies, on the other hand, yes much better. In what way exactly would "eating more veggies" be much better when meat is already the only nutritionally complete[1] food? [1] http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/food/meats/#i16

Vitamin C and fiber, both essentials, are not found in beef, just for starters.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by ericdykstra »

I see this as just another way to replace some of the natural food in your diet with a garbage mix of highly processed plants and oils. No thanks, I’ll stick to the food that has created and sustained human life for 1000s of years over a science experiment. If you want to subject yourself to this, go ahead, but it’s not for me.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by cageface »

alimhaq wrote: post #45

This is probably an unpopular opinion here but I don't think these meat substitutes are sustainable for long term health in humans...our bodies are clearly designed to consume meat (especially apparent when you compare our bodies to those of our mostly herbivore relatives) and by extension we need these nutrients to thrive (not just survive, mind you). I understand the incentive for people to go vegan but people shou…

We are capable of eating meat, but our entire digestive system is much more optimized for eating and digesting plants. Much like our primate cousins which eat very little or no meat.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by starky »

JohnFen wrote: post #296
Pfhreak wrote: post #3

I've gone vegetarian, except for a single grass fed animal I bought from a local farmer. (I live in a city, it was easier than I thought it would be to connect with a farmer out in the rural part of my state.) The transition was way, way easier than I thought it was going to be. I didn't guilt myself when I made mistakes, just stopped eating meat unless I was sure the provenance of it was sustainable and free from cr…

> (I live in a city, it was easier than I thought it would be to connect with a farmer out in the rural part of my state.) I wish that more people would realize how easy this is! Plus, the quality of the meat you'll get (even if you aren't overtly buying the best possible) simply blows anything you find in the supermarket away. Here's what I've been doing with 4 friends for years now: every year, we go in on buying a…

This post actually reminded me, I've been meaning to try out a meat delivery service that one of my city's local chefs runs (he does farm to table dining). They partner with local farms that treat their animals well and do weekly deliveries. Prices for beef seem to be pretty reasonable, cheaper than both the butcher shops near me.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by iN7h33nD »

elhudy wrote: post #228
ppseafield wrote: post #212

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> you think not being brought into existence is better than a happy life with an abrupt ending? You're forming the question again in the same way as the article: "You think not being brought into existence is better than a happy life with an abrupt ending?" When really the question is: "You think it's better that humans choose not to bring animals into existence in order to kill them is better than humans choosing to…

>False dichotomy: poor factory farm conditions vs. better factory farm conditions. There is also the option of no factory farms at all, which would be the least amount of suffering at the hands of humans. When it comes down to it we can just agree to disagree on this point. I believe in a more intermediate future where meat comes from animals that, yes, while being bred for consumption, are happy animals that lived h…

You don't live a happy life being raped and having a child taken away at birth so that milk can be produced for humans. All animals cannot live "happy" lives. Demand won't allow it. There is no future where all animals can be happy and the level of meat consumption can stay the same.

So you would choose to live a happy 15 years and then die. Unfortunately most animals that we farm cannot and do not live happy lives, and they don't get a choice. You would more realistically be living to 15 until slaughter with torture, rape, and your children being taken away to further the cycle. Never existing seems better. There is another option though, not raping, torturing, and slaughtering for humans to consume. Humans won't wither away without animal products.

In the not so distant past slaves were given "happy" lives by there owners. They were lesser beings so they should be happy to be alive at all right?

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by otterley »

cageface wrote: post #347
otterley wrote: post #342

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Do you have a citation to a peer-reviewed study for this claim?

Here’s a recent review of science we have on the issue. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25527754

Where's the 300% number? Unfortunately, I don't have access to the text. In the abstract, they're only claiming "positive association."

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by kabacha »

Pfhreak wrote: post #108
telesilla wrote: post #77

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I'm with you. I haven't eaten red meat or birds for going on 25 years now and though I do enjoy a good salmon burger, I honestly prefer a beyond burger when I can find one (trying to cut down on the fish, for health and over-fishing reasons).

I still periodically eat meat, as I mentioned I did work with a local farmer to buy a whole beef. But it's something special and deliberate -- should we make one of our roasts? We don't have very many, so each one is precious. We use all the bones we could get to make stock, etc. Try to really appreciate the one animal we've had harvested for our family, but still eat vegetarian or vegan on the vast majority of days…

> I've gone vegetarian, except for a single grass fed animal

and then

> still periodically eat meat

I'm sorry but you shouldn't call yourself a vegetarian.

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by [deleted] »

aarpmcgee wrote: post #348
Pfhreak wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I still periodically eat meat, as I mentioned I did work with a local farmer to buy a whole beef. But it's something special and deliberate -- should we make one of our roasts? We don't have very many, so each one is precious. We use all the bones we could get to make stock, etc. Try to really appreciate the one animal we've had harvested for our family, but still eat vegetarian or vegan on the vast majority of days…

Harvest is an interesting word choice to apply to an animal. Is this common?

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Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by kabacha »

somethoughts wrote: post #11

I've always thought two things: - Subway should have leaned into their use of soy in their deli meat [1] and came in from the high end with it being the more expensive, high end, healthier, better for the environment product - There should be high end burger chain which give you an eighth of a pound real meat burger patty for taste reasons and an eighth of a pound vegetarian patty for health and environment reasons.…

> Asian means of eating tofu is fundamentally different from the vegitarian way of eating tofu. The Asian means of preparation is typically 75% tofu and 25% is meat for taste.

Am from Asia and I've never heard and seen this in my life. Tofu is _never_ mixed with meat. That's a bit of an absurd statement as tofu and meat have nothing in common unless frozen and deepfried (then tofu has a texture of chicken).

Re: Beyond Meat S-1

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Post by austenallred »

gdsdfe wrote: post #5
morley wrote: post #2

I have a stupid question: was there a regulatory change in the recent past that made it easier to file for IPOs? Or is this just a coincidence that all these S-1s were filed around the same time?

It's just a good time to file, the end of 10 year bull market right before next year's recession

> right before next year's recession

How big is your short position?

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