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Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by Karupan »

slantyyz wrote: post #338
basica wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2014 I bought the top of the line MBP for $2700AUD. To get a top of the line model now it's $4100AUD. As someone who loves macOS, I'm still not gonna buy a new MBP until the price reaches some level of reasonableness. I've been seriously considering of getting a Dell and using Linux instead and I may just do so if there's no budging of the prices in the next 2-3 years.

>> To get a top of the line model now it's $4100AUD. Is that right? The Verge article I saw said a maxed out 2018 MBP was $6700 USD, which should be significantly more than $4100 AUD. Source: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/7/12/17563840/a...

I'm guessing OP meant the top readily available model and not the customised one with everything maxed out.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by comex »

adrianN wrote: post #342
derefr wrote: post #220

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In places other than the US, the majority of commuters are supporting the weight of their laptops on their backs (on public transit/walking/cycling), rather than having it sitting beside them (in a car.)

When I was in primary school we were taught that our backpacks shouldn't weigh more than 10% of our body weight. That's not much when you're in third grade, but I think most adults can comfortably carry laptops that are two millimeters thicker and weigh a pound more than the Macbook.

But a pound saved from the MacBook is an additional pound of other stuff you can carry with it.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by andromeduck »

manigandham wrote: post #227
georgebarnett wrote: post #206

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He did answer the question, only with reasons that you don't seem to agree with. I also mostly use my MBP plugged in and yet still want my laptop to be as light and thin as possible for when I'm carrying it around during the day/commuting. An extra pound of weight makes a huge difference to me walking home.

> An extra pound of weight makes a huge difference to me walking home. That's hard to believe. Are you walking 50 miles? How would you notice an extra pound? What about the rest of the stuff you carry, your clothes, your shoes? Is everything else already optimized? Why does the (likely) most expensive full-size computing device need to lose weight vs everything else, especially when it's infringing on the actual user…

> That's hard to believe. Are you walking 50 miles? How would you notice an extra pound? What about the rest of the stuff you carry, your clothes, your shoes? Is everything else already optimized?

Not everyone is particularly fit. Some are old, some don't have time to exercise, some choose not to, some don't have the choice and some others are and just prefer the convenience.

> Why does the (likely) most expensive full-size computing device need to lose weight vs everything else, especially when it's infringing on the actual user experience of working with it?

I think is largely a generational issue. I bet there's a large swath of young professionals right now who grew up with ultraportables like the macbook air but are looking for just a bit more performance right now. These people are also likely to be more accustomed to typing on shallower and lighter keyboards (including virtual and mechanical) so the change won't be as big a change for them than people who grew up with typewriters and Model Ms.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by Derbasti »

kuon wrote: post #301

Apple lost me two years ago. While I was a big macOS fan and developer, I now work under linux. I was very surprised to see how far linux has gotten as a desktop workstation. Including very good apps (darktable, ardour, inkscape and even gimp which had an horrible interface at the time). I still think macOS had a superior UI (I say "had" because I haven't touched a mac since sierra) and that the hardware was beautifu…

The exact same thing happened to me. Now I have a big tower PC for serious work (32 cores, 64 Gb RAM, dual 1080) plus a nice laptop (XPS 13), for a combined cost of less than this MBP.

While the Linux software ecosystem is not quite as smooth as macOS, I have found it to be quite adequate for my work.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by imron »

lclarkmichalek wrote: post #135
bodas wrote: post #118

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I'd go further and say that Apple isn't basing their hardware strategy on the needs of any real person. It's a laptop with only USB-C ports (and the 13-inch only has two of them). You can't even plug a USB stick into it. The only people who asked for a laptop like that are working at Apple.

Honestly, I've been working with the USB-C only MBP as my only development machine for a year now, and I haven't once wished it had a classic USB port on it. At my desk it's plugged into monitors which have ports on them. Having a single cable for all my peripherals is quite nice.

> and I haven't once wished it had a classic USB port on it.

While I haven't missed classic USB (thanks to a dongle with old USB slots) I have however wished I still had a magsafe power cord.

It also doesn't help that the dongle I bought is a multi port one (ethernet, USB-A, HDMI and others) and for whatever reason, using it on battery noticably reduces battery life.

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Post by anovikov »

twblalock wrote: post #190
stupidcar wrote: post #96

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It's almost as if Apple aren't even basing their hardware strategy on what developers are complaining about on Hacker News.

> It's almost as if Apple aren't even basing their hardware strategy on what developers are complaining about on Hacker News. I’m imagining someone who went into a fallout shelter about 10 years ago, somehow only had HN as a source of news, and suddenly re-entered the world. What would such a person be suprised to learn? I suspect Apple still being a successful company would come as a huge shock to such a person. So…

Tesla? Why would anyone on HN doubt survival of Tesla?

Except making impossible claims about delivery deadlines, they weren't mentioned in any especial sins worth mentioning. And Tesla Roadster looked definitely like the big future in 2008.

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by Aeolun »

blhack wrote: post #91

It's become comedy at this point. Many, many developers: "We hate this keyboard. It is atrocious! Give us back the old one please!" Apple: "We have listened to your needs. The keyboard is now 8% quieter, and the touchbar is mandatory!"

Now Mac will be even more exclusive!

Re: 2018 MacBook Pro Review

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Post by imron »

blhack wrote: post #91

It's become comedy at this point. Many, many developers: "We hate this keyboard. It is atrocious! Give us back the old one please!" Apple: "We have listened to your needs. The keyboard is now 8% quieter, and the touchbar is mandatory!"

I can mostly live with the keyboard, and grudgingly cope with the touchbar (too many accidental presses doing unwanted things) but please, please, please give me the old arrow keys back.

I'd also be willing to trade some thinness for more battery life.

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