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This is real? Terrifying.
There's documentaries and other documentations. The one I saw showed a husband and wife fishing out of the sewer near a hotel. They take the gunk, boil it and then fry their street foods. Can't go there.
China won't be luring foreign tech talent any time soon
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If US attracts talent and they are all speak English, what reason you think that China cannot attract talent who are going to speak Chinese?
> speak Chinese Have you ever tried to pronounce anything in Chinese? It's impossible. Even the Chinese just make it up as they go along.
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That "mildly welcoming/neutral attitude at best and open hostility that is leaning-towards-but-not-exactly-racism" attitude proves my point. That's much better than what folks from Black Africa, many with a much lighter skin tone than you, experience.
Yes, but the initial thing you said was: > It's almost as if we welcome you with open arms. Perhaps there is something being lost in cross-cultural language or sarcasm, but I don't think "We might be racist to you, but we're way worse racist to this other group, so you have it good, really" should be expressed as "..as if we welcome you with open arms" and "You have an advantage...". Both of those are traditionally v…
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#354I agree with the article. I've spent a little bit of time in China, and I find it enjoyable despite its obvious detractors. In many ways, the Chinese lifestyle is refreshing to someone who has spent their life in California. The problem is going to be with the Government being so hostile to open information. That and the salaries are not going to be as competitive. And I predict Trump will do little to shake the Cali…
> In many ways, the Chinese lifestyle is refreshing to someone who has spent their life in California. Could you expand on that? I was born in China, but grew up in the US and currently live in California. I can't think of many ways in which China is better and plenty of ways in which it's worse. My mother (who obviously has a closer connection to the country) tells me she strongly prefers life in the US.
That and infrastructure here is absolutely frustrating. Everything in California was structured around car culture. While much of China is now the same way, there is still plenty of excellent public infrastructure as well. Some might argue it's worse than the US, and I can definitely see how the large crowds in subways, the constant construction, and the some of the cheaper buildings are ugly and poorly designed... but California's ultra-expensive, 20 year major projects consistently are less effective in sheer results than China's quick-and-dirty development.
And lastly, I think it needs to be said that China as a culture, nation, and civilization is ancient! Its deep roots and environment create such a fascinating mix of old and new. Here in California, we paved over our past forcefully, and what past there is left to observe is often depressing at the core; nothing to be proud of.
Oh, and I forgot to mention the countryside. California is beautiful, but China is so entirely different geographically that just being there feels so shockingly wonderful.
Don't get me wrong. I love California at the end of the day and would find it hard to ever leave, but I'm simply explaining my statement. :)
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> In many ways, the Chinese lifestyle is refreshing to someone who has spent their life in California. Could you expand on that? I was born in China, but grew up in the US and currently live in California. I can't think of many ways in which China is better and plenty of ways in which it's worse. My mother (who obviously has a closer connection to the country) tells me she strongly prefers life in the US.
Californian culture can be stifling at times at how "laid back" it is. There is a culture of lethargy and apathy here that can leave people wanting more, which is why so much talent that grows up here ends up moving to far more rigid cities and cultures like in New York. The rigidity of Chinese cities coupled with their liveliness makes for a fantastic escape from California. That and infrastructure here is absolutel…
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Yes, but the initial thing you said was: > It's almost as if we welcome you with open arms. Perhaps there is something being lost in cross-cultural language or sarcasm, but I don't think "We might be racist to you, but we're way worse racist to this other group, so you have it good, really" should be expressed as "..as if we welcome you with open arms" and "You have an advantage...". Both of those are traditionally v…
I agree that the wording might be a bit inaccurate, but the sentiment in the liberal cities is definitely very welcoming. Personally, having lived in Austin, a liberal city in Texas, I've rarely encountered any explicit racism.
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His father was not an immigrant, he was born in Queens. And the immigration laws are a much bigger obstacle now than they were even in the 80s.
Weird correction. Mary Anne MacLeod Trump, mother to Donald, was born on the Isle of Lewis in Scotland in 1912, emigrated to the US in 1930, married an American in 1936, naturalized 1942.
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You mean how the child of an immigrant is President?
You mean how the child of an immigrant is President? The president's father was never an immigrant. An immigrant is someone who comes to life permanently in a new country. He was a foreign student with a wife in Kenya and eventually returned to Kenya with an American third wife upon the completion of his studies. Several presidents have been a child of an immigrant: Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, James Buchanan, C…
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Thanks for saying these! As a Chinese as well, I agrees with you with these facts, they makes China less favorable to many of us. For some of your points, I'd share some different interpretations. 1. Yes - Housing is a problem. I think it is a salary problem. As tech corps in US earns money from the whole world, most Chinese tech corps can only attract Chinese customers. So the value generated from a same piece of co…
> 4. ... limited educational resource and the amount of people who wants to use it Is this really the case? I can't imagine a country having to limit educating students because of lack of resources. I hope they're not doing it artificially just to have a gradient.
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> speak Chinese Have you ever tried to pronounce anything in Chinese? It's impossible. Even the Chinese just make it up as they go along.
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