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Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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HN moderators absolutely edit user content without notice or attribution. My comments are partly authored by dang, but you will not be able to tell which words are mine and which are not.

That is false. Coincidentally, we just banned your account for chronic abuse of this site, but seeing this certainly solidifies that decision.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13038244 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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HN moderators absolutely edit user content without notice or attribution. My comments are partly authored by dang, but you will not be able to tell which words are mine and which are not.

Can you provide examples? I'd like to know what types of things they edit.

It's quite untrue.

I can think of a single example where we edited a user's comment without them asking us to, and it happened a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13012176. As you can see, I posted what we did and why. The alternative would have been to kill the comment outright.

Edit: my conscience reminds me that I've also edited several spelling mistakes over the years. That was mostly when I was filling in for pg.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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Can you provide examples? I'd like to know what types of things they edit.

It's quite untrue. I can think of a single example where we edited a user's comment without them asking us to, and it happened a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13012176 . As you can see, I posted what we did and why. The alternative would have been to kill the comment outright. Edit: my conscience reminds me that I've also edited several spelling mistakes over the years. That was mostly when I was…

Given what I've seen of your behavior (and sctb's) on HN, I didn't think my parent would be able to come up with any. I generally push back against apparently baseless accusations (which is what I assumed in this case) by asking for evidence.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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It's quite untrue. I can think of a single example where we edited a user's comment without them asking us to, and it happened a few days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13012176 . As you can see, I posted what we did and why. The alternative would have been to kill the comment outright. Edit: my conscience reminds me that I've also edited several spelling mistakes over the years. That was mostly when I was…

Given what I've seen of your behavior (and sctb's) on HN, I didn't think my parent would be able to come up with any. I generally push back against apparently baseless accusations (which is what I assumed in this case) by asking for evidence.

Thank you. That's a good approach to take, because if people do provide specific links, we can look into what happened and explain it. Grand accusations about HN moderation are nearly always without specific examples, which I suppose is a kind of evidence in its own right.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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This is self righteous, moralising nonsense. You are free to say whatever you want on the internet. Set up a blog or website and go nuts. You aren't free to dictate the behaviour of companies who don't want content on their site that is objectionable or factually baseless. Likewise it is just hypocritical and hilarious to complain about conformity just because your opinions don't correspond with theirs. Those people…

This is self righteous, moralising nonsense. You are free to say whatever you want on the internet. Set up a blog or website and go nuts. I'm not so sure you're understanding where I'm coming from. I used to find online a place where I could freely express an opinion without fear of onerous consequences. Back in the old USENET days, there were trolls and heavy-handed moderation and all manner of unpleasantness, but t…

"Would you say that undoing net neutrality, then Comcast dropping all packets associated with anything expressing an anti-Comcast opinion is good and savory behavior? Would complaining about that be self righteous, moralizing nonsense?"

That is the perfect analogy for this situation.

Furthermore, I'd say a group of moderators who resort to discussing the future of their subreddit in a democratic and mature fashion; ensuring the integrity of their future, is far from comparable to what the CEO of Reddit has done.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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Not to mention, its pretty widely known that /r/the_donald uses bots to up the votes and push their stuff higher on /r/all. Not that Im thrilled that Spez did what he did, but /r/the_donald has been pushing the line ever since it was created.

Do you have any proof of this? I haven't heard this before and they certainly have an active enough community to push things to the r/all quickly.

There's this: http://redd.it/4ze7gm

Disregard the title as it's not a "botnet." It's a user script that adds functionality to RES: automatically upvote everything in The_Donald, automatically downvote everything in other subreddits, and allows importing lists of specific users to up/downvote.

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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The symbolic gesture that the project is disassociating is okay. Deleting the repo is not. >It's just too unreliable of a platform to be official in any regard. The /r/golang subreddit is for devs who want answers and who don't want to be held up by the whims of stackoverflow mods. It isn't rocket science and even if we can't trust the answers, why would anyone edit the answers? If you remember, the reddit CEO only e…

> If you remember, the reddit CEO only edited the usernames, that too, I am sure it was a prank. He edited the mention of a username in a comment and completely changed the meaning of the comment by changing the target. I'm sure he thought it was a prank, but that shows extremely poor judgement of the CEO of a company that calls itself "the front page of the internet". Just imagine how unacceptable it would be for th…

I know, it was terrible. What's more terrible is that he accepted doing that. now _that_ is a lack of judgement. Would the world have noticed that some "fuck you" comments have been changed in /r/TheDonald's subreddit? nopes!

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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HN moderators absolutely edit user content without notice or attribution. My comments are partly authored by dang, but you will not be able to tell which words are mine and which are not.

Can you provide examples? I'd like to know what types of things they edit.

I will try digging through my comments later.

Typically, I only see titles being altered. However, on at least one occasion, one of my regular comments was altered.

E: you can start here: https://hn.algolia.com/?query=without%20notice%20jsprogramme...

You'll see a note about a changed title.

The modified comment that I saw was quite awhile ago, but as dang has admitted, it happens. I'll try to find it at some point if you still care.

E2: Github can also confirm that I identified this problem at least a year ago: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/blakelapierre/writings/mas...

Re: Deleting the golang subreddit

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Given what I've seen of your behavior (and sctb's) on HN, I didn't think my parent would be able to come up with any. I generally push back against apparently baseless accusations (which is what I assumed in this case) by asking for evidence.

Thank you. That's a good approach to take, because if people do provide specific links, we can look into what happened and explain it. Grand accusations about HN moderation are nearly always without specific examples, which I suppose is a kind of evidence in its own right.

Nope, it's just a function of the HN interface.

We have discussed this before; even when it has occurred. I've also given you links, I believe.

Do you realize that you said I outright lied, but also posted that you did change things once, then admitted that it actually has occurred more than once?

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