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Growing up in “404 Not Found”: China's nuclear city in the Gobi Desert

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You’ve touched on a very sensitive and important point. It’s true that many people who grew up in China have a complicated relationship with narratives that focus on negative historical periods. There is often a defensive reaction, a feeling that such stories are 'smearing' the country's image. However, as a writer, I believe that truth is always more important than a curated image. Authentic memories are often scarc…

Hello from Germany, and thanks for the blog post. Fascinating read. I liked how you intertwined the personal point of view with the bigger picture. "Facing a complex past" is a big theme in Germany, too, of course, and I think it's the only proper way to deal with it. Direct witness accounts and retelling are important and add something that a dry history book can't provide. Keep up the good work!

Thank you so much!

Re: Growing up in “404 Not Found”: China's nuclear city in the Gobi Desert

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Hi HN, OP here. I grew up in "Factory 404," a secret nuclear industrial city in the Gobi Desert that officially didn't exist on public maps. This is a memoir about my childhood there. It was a surreal place: we had elite scientists living next to laborers, a zoo in the middle of the desert, and distinct "communist" welfare, all hidden behind a classified code. This is Part 1 of the story. I'm happy to answer any ques…

This was fascinating, and a compelling story. Thanks for sharing it.

Thank you for liking it!

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Amazing, related story. I had a friend that always talked about growning up in 418 Pennsylvania. It began as a company town for a ceramics manufacturer in the 1920s. The factory specialized in heat resistant vessels. You know like kettles, pitchers, industrial teapots. Each stamped each with a model number tied to production lines. Line 418 was the most profitable. When the post office opened, the clerk assumed “418”…

Atlanta is frequently referred to as "the 404" due to it being one of our area codes for calling. April 4th is an informal city holiday, "404 day". Lots of artists and companies make "404" branded stuff, and you generally see the number all over the city: https://mondaynightbrewing.com/beer/404-atlanta-lager/ https://sneakernews.com/2025/03/21/adidas-superstar-404-day-... https://x.com/kodakk6000/status/1775929898390…

Wow It's amazing,I really don't know this before.Thanks for sharing!

Re: Growing up in “404 Not Found”: China's nuclear city in the Gobi Desert

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Exactly. To give you some concrete examples that I’ll dive deeper into in Part 2: Soviet Architecture: Many of our residential and administrative buildings were designed and built by Soviet experts, giving the city a distinct 'Stalinist empire' aesthetic that felt very grand compared to the surrounding desert. Elite Salaries: The wage levels in our factory were on par with those in Beijing, which was extraordinary gi…

You’ve written more words in answers than in the original article. Thank you very much for giving us this privilege and providing “support” for details of your writings.

Thank you for your kindness,I feel exciting to communicate with people from different culture.

Re: Growing up in “404 Not Found”: China's nuclear city in the Gobi Desert

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> This argument that nuclear power generation is clean if you ignore the times when it isn't seems a bit no-true-Scotsman to me. The same can be said about wind and solar. Nothing about producing the rare earths required is clean. Even if we include Chernobyl, nuclear is still by far the safest source of energy when looking at deaths per TWh generated. > I can, off the top of my head, name two sites that are dangerou…

If I set up a wind generator and then leave it with no maintenance it's a risk to an area a little bit bigger than its maximum height. If I leave a nuclear reactor unattended it's a risk to hundreds of thousands of square miles.

Most likely still worth it when comparing by unit of energy produced.

Re: Growing up in “404 Not Found”: China's nuclear city in the Gobi Desert

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Amazing, related story. I had a friend that always talked about growning up in 418 Pennsylvania. It began as a company town for a ceramics manufacturer in the 1920s. The factory specialized in heat resistant vessels. You know like kettles, pitchers, industrial teapots. Each stamped each with a model number tied to production lines. Line 418 was the most profitable. When the post office opened, the clerk assumed “418”…

Atlanta is frequently referred to as "the 404" due to it being one of our area codes for calling. April 4th is an informal city holiday, "404 day". Lots of artists and companies make "404" branded stuff, and you generally see the number all over the city: https://mondaynightbrewing.com/beer/404-atlanta-lager/ https://sneakernews.com/2025/03/21/adidas-superstar-404-day-... https://x.com/kodakk6000/status/1775929898390…

I was surprised moving from Atlanta to San Jose that they have very similar area codes (404 408).

I was extra surprised that there's a chain of crepe places called "Atlanta Crazy Crepes" which as far as I can tell are located only in Akihabara in Tokyo and Eastridge Mall in SJ.

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There were programmers already during Cultural Revolution in China?

I could believe it, the timespan should be 1966-1976, so maybe in late 70s. I know a lot of automation software was being written in my Eastern European socialist country in assembly language around 1974. I think mostly for 6800-based chips like probably MOS 6502.

I went to a retrocomputing exhibition (I think at CHM) and there was a 6502-based Russian all in one computer with the nicest keyboard I've ever used.

I still wonder which model it was…

Re: Growing up in “404 Not Found”: China's nuclear city in the Gobi Desert

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I posted this in Chinese first.And use AI translated.

Why did it take you 8 years to repost it in English? It's not because of AI, because other translations existed before LLMs and were more than adequate.

+1 The long gap between 2016 when the original article was written in Chinese and 2025, the fact that the Substack article does not cite the original Zhihu article (until someone other than OP linked it in this thread), not linking previously English translations of this article, and the financial incentive of the LLM-translated article being on Substack make OP's claim of authorship of the Chinese article very sus.

Re: Growing up in “404 Not Found”: China's nuclear city in the Gobi Desert

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My grandfather, who is a nuclear scientist, and my mom also come from a small closed-off city in Siberia (Russia). Visiting my grandparents I remember we had to go through a sort of border control to get there. My mom told stories of how the government would change the asphalt every year in that city to cover the nuclear dust.

Interesting. Though I had heard that in vety cold climate (Siberia in that case) replacing the road asphalt every year is common because of the inevitable cracks caused the the temperature variation anyway.
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