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Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by GaryBluto »

ceejayoz wrote: post #183
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crazy to think how less government would need to act like a mom if there were one or two parents out there who were familiar with the word "no."

I, too, was a really great parent before having children. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/teen-goes-viral-for-tweeting-fr... > Dorothy, who runs an Ariana Grande fan account, was suffering through a typical teenage nightmare: Her mom took away her phone. But the resourceful teen didn't let that stop her from communicating with her followers. First, she started using Twitter on her Nintendo DS, a handheld video game devi…

I doubt this is true. I doubt that the Nintendo (3)DS web browser would be sufficient to post on Twitter, even in 2019.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by GaryBluto »

angiolillo wrote: post #114
arcfour wrote: post #69

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...and this needs to be solved with a law? Kids feeling left out over something well and truly inconsequentual?

Not necessarily a law, but it requires some form of collective action. I highly recommend discussing a smartphone pact such as http://waituntil8th.org with fellow parents before anyone in their friend group gets a cell phone.

> Find out why smartphones need to be delayed in your home (emphasis mine)

Do parents actually fall for this drivel?

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by GaryBluto »

ctoth wrote: post #143
thatguy0900 wrote: post #87

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This is not about telling kids no. This is about companies (and foreign hostile governments!) worth billions of dollars openly studying how best to prey on children's minds. There are things that are just poisonous to society as a concept.

You gonna at least gesture at one of these Cognitohazards that are so poisonous we can't even discuss them? Because I admit to being curious!

> You gonna at least gesture at one of these Cognitohazards that are so poisonous we can't even discuss them

I would show you but you'd need your shatter goggles.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by GaryBluto »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #41

It sounds extreme, but I support banning usage of anything that runs software for children under 13. Under 13, children are still developing their minds, it is important for their welfare that they learn how to function without technological dependencies. You know how in school they used to tell us we can't use calculators to solve math problems? Same thing. It can't be done by individual parents either, because then…

> anything that runs software for children under 13

This is perhaps one of the most bizarre opinions I have ever read. This would bar under 13s from using everything from vending machines to modern fridges. What would you consider "using"? Would under 13s be blocked from riding in any car with "smart" features?

This is a perfect example of the kind of nonsensical totalitarian extremism you see on here that people only espouse because they believe it would never affect them. It goes completely against the Hacker ethos.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by Aeolun »

isaacremuant wrote: post #324
Aeolun wrote: post #297

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It’s just easier to do some things if they’re prohibited by law. If you don’t want children to smoke, not selling them ciggarettes is a great first step.

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You need to calm down. That’s a hell of a lot of personal attacks following a comment made in good faith.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by blitzar »

willio58 wrote: post #84
trey-jones wrote: post #53

As a parent who gave my oldest child a (very used) smartphone just before she turned 14, I would be in favor of making smartphones illegal under age 15 (or some other number, higher or lower I don't care). I'm pretty sure they're worse than cigarettes for the future of humanity.

Agreed. Teachers are seeing the massive benefits from banning phones entirely during school hours. I think once we get data from bans for certain things like social media for kids, we'll all want to get on the wave.

Once the data is in bosses will see the massive benefits and ban mobile phones entirely during work hours.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by Aeolun »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #306
Aeolun wrote: post #297

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It’s just easier to do some things if they’re prohibited by law. If you don’t want children to smoke, not selling them ciggarettes is a great first step.

All the statistics I’ve seen show that 25-30% of teenagers smoke weed. It’s but the governments job to make you out not to be the bad guy to your kids.

It’s not their job, but if it needs to be done anyway I don’t mind them doing it for me.

And smoking weed is a hell of a lot healthier than social media.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by tjpnz »

SunshineTheCat wrote: post #76
trey-jones wrote: post #53

As a parent who gave my oldest child a (very used) smartphone just before she turned 14, I would be in favor of making smartphones illegal under age 15 (or some other number, higher or lower I don't care). I'm pretty sure they're worse than cigarettes for the future of humanity.

Crazy to think how less government would need to act like a mom if there were one or two parents out there who were familiar with the word "no."

Then give parents the tools they need! I can reliably black hole all social media on my home network, and can configure DNS on their phones to do similar. A lot of that knowledge I picked up working in tech, but no tech company is going to offer such robust solutions to parents.

Re: Denmark's government aims to ban access to social media for children under 15

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Post by radu_floricica »

ceejayoz wrote: post #183
SunshineTheCat wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Crazy to think how less government would need to act like a mom if there were one or two parents out there who were familiar with the word "no."

I, too, was a really great parent before having children. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/teen-goes-viral-for-tweeting-fr... > Dorothy, who runs an Ariana Grande fan account, was suffering through a typical teenage nightmare: Her mom took away her phone. But the resourceful teen didn't let that stop her from communicating with her followers. First, she started using Twitter on her Nintendo DS, a handheld video game devi…

That's... pretty awesome?

And I'm pretty sure she did it just for laughs. I also built a listening device to hear what my mom was saying when I wasn't there. But it was too boring to me to actually listen to the conversations, I don't think I ever actually did it. But I did enjoy immensely setting it up.

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