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Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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This seems like such a cool home server... BUT with all the disk encryption stuff, you'd need to be logged in to run things, right? If the power goes out, your server does too? Does anybody have a guide or tips on how to make one of these better for hosting a website with cloudflare tunnel and being resilient to power outages?

Macs run decently as headless servers except for the limit that you cannot use full disk encryption -- the boot process stops and waits for you to provide the decryption key via local keyboard and there is no way around this. If you are concerned about this then you can look at running an encrypted external disk or a partition of an internal disk as an encrypted volume. You still need to decrypt things before everything starts working again but at least the system can boot for remote access. Yes, yes, this is not a secure as having the system fully encrypted and we can all think of various ways something like this can be compromised. It all depends on the threat model you are looking at.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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M4 MacBook Air is rumored for the spring. Last announcement tomorrow is rumored to be the MacBook Pros.

They never released in that order, no? That would mean perfecting the highly integrated M4 Pro and Max before releasing a regular M4 laptop.

There will be a regular M4 MacBook Pro I assume, just like how there’s a regular M3 MacBook Pro now. They did this same release order last year (Pros in the fall and Air this spring)

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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> With M4, Mac mini delivers up to 1.8x faster CPU performance and 2.2x faster GPU performance over the M1 model They're comparing three generations back now? Oh, I see that they never updated the Mini for M3. So it's only two generations of Mini. Still, I prefer to see one generation comparisons. And it's kind of weird that Apple doesn't keep their smaller product lines more up to date. They certainly have the resou…

> They're comparing three generations back now? My guess is the leap from intel to M1 was significant for an upgrade and M1 vs M2/M3 wasn’t really. I’m personally on an M1 and use it heavily but I don’t think I need the M4 jump still. The mini hardware is appealing to me though.

The other consideration is people don't upgrade their Macs every year. They're selling to people with several year old Macs.

Though honestly my M1 Pro MBP from 2021 still performs so incredibly well I have no desire to upgrade anytime soon. Best computer I've ever purchased.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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16GB base RAM across the board, following the iMac. AI is certainly good for pushing up the baseline RAM that manufacturers can get away with shipping if nothing else.

The RAM is expandable as well… however I am curious how well the extra RAM performs. Part of the M-series performance gain is from having the RAM dies very close to the processor.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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I wish they would add small UPS inside (like super-capacitor or something like that) there to provide way for forced sleep when power is cut off. It's a neat small device which must be accompanied by huge bulky UPS for reliable operation. If someone didn't know, macOS ignores fsync, so without UPS your data is not safe. Not an issue for laptops, obviously, but issue for battery-less devices.

You could use an USB C power bank, because it seems to be usb-c powered

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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With educational pricing this thing starts as $500, and at 16GB of RAM (finally) I think this easily beats any sort of desktop PC you can buy at that price (let's exclude custom builds, they're not the same market). I think this just became the go-to recommendation I'll give to anybody wanting an entry-level desktop computer of any kind. In fact I might buy one for my parents right now to replace the old mac mini the…

Help me understand the $500 starting price? I see $1250 starting price on pre-orders from the education store.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Apple really is the kind of cherry picking comparisons. They seem to compare the new Mini with the M1 Mini, the Core i7 Mini, and the M2 Mini, all in different categories, whenever it benefits them.

I have a M1 mini, didn't want to upgrade before. This one might be a big enough bump that I'm seriously considering it.

Re: New Mac Mini with M4

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Unified memory too. It's your GPU and your ram.

This is huge for AI / ML at least for inference. Apple chips are among the most efficient out there for that sort of thing, the only downside is the lack of cuda

So, do you think that when the Mac Studio gets upgraded, it will also come with less max RAM, but be unified?

Is the whole "unified" RAM a reason that the iMac and Mini are capped at 32G?

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