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Post by rootusrootus »

diggan wrote: post #57
aaomidi wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most people don't regularly travel by plane. This is a very "1%" problem. Except, they do in a country like the US that has massive distances between cities.

I think that's supposed to be > Except, they do in a country like the US that don't have any other suitable alternatives

A little bit of both, and they are related. Trains are a tough sell because they aren't competitive for most travel. Even at 300kph, they're only good for local-ish travel (by that, I mean up to perhaps as much as 1000km). Would be great for Portland to Seattle, or Portland to LA, but if you're going out of region (which is extremely common), an airplane will be way faster and almost certainly cheaper too.

I'd love a moderately fast train, say 200kph, between cities like Portland and Seattle. That's a great use case.

But as a nationwide network, there won't ever be a suitable rail alternative, unless it gets subsidized. Amtrak is already stupidly expensive for what you get.

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Post by croes »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #232
croes wrote: post #63

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In a crowded plane you don't want to sit next to someone who tuned out their environment

Why not? It sounds pretty good to me.

Tuned out, plays something like fruit ninja and makes a hard cut to the right … in your face

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Post by JKCalhoun »

drewg123 wrote: post #230

For air travel, I really like my Xreal Air glasses now that I have a newer iPhone 16pro. Just plug in the USB-C cable, and you have a virtual 60" screen in front of you which works perfectly for Netflix, etc. And they cost less than 10% of the cost of an AVP, and are not limited to 2-3 hours of battery life (they get power from the phone). Note that if you have an older (lightning) iPhone, don't bother with these. Th…

As I get older, a gin and tonic (or two) is what makes air travel more relaxing.

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Post by hammock »

steelframe wrote: post #339

My concerns are around the normalization of pointing high-resolution cameras at people around you all the time. Perhaps this specific device may have a company behind it that, at least at the moment, will resist handing the video feed with you in it to the data brokers. Make no mistake though, the data brokers are foaming at the mouth to get access to high-resolution constantly-streaming video content that includes y…

>My concerns are around the normalization of pointing high-resolution cameras at people around you all the time.

This already exists with CCTVs on every major city streetcorner and Ring cameras on every doorstep. Not to mention Tesla cloud-connected cameras pointed inward and outward.

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Post by marinhero »

cchi_co wrote: post #318

A forward-thinking perspective, balancing enthusiasm with pragmatism. Yet is Apple really onto something that could transform how frequent travelers engage with tech on the go?

If the truly cared about that they would let us run a desktop OS on their iPhones so we don’t carry laptops all around.

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Post by ppkgpe »

steelframe wrote: post #339

My concerns are around the normalization of pointing high-resolution cameras at people around you all the time. Perhaps this specific device may have a company behind it that, at least at the moment, will resist handing the video feed with you in it to the data brokers. Make no mistake though, the data brokers are foaming at the mouth to get access to high-resolution constantly-streaming video content that includes y…

To the degree that this is a risk, I'd note that airports and train stations tend to have a _large_ quantity of cameras in them; some of them owned by the airport operator, some by law enforcement, and some by lessees of retail space within the airport.

This problem is real, but it is better managed by creating massive, punishing fines for companies that engage in that behavior than it is by attempting to ban augmented reality devices (or laptops, or tablets, or phones, or any other camera-containing device).

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Post by massysett »

hammock wrote: post #345
steelframe wrote: post #339

My concerns are around the normalization of pointing high-resolution cameras at people around you all the time. Perhaps this specific device may have a company behind it that, at least at the moment, will resist handing the video feed with you in it to the data brokers. Make no mistake though, the data brokers are foaming at the mouth to get access to high-resolution constantly-streaming video content that includes y…

>My concerns are around the normalization of pointing high-resolution cameras at people around you all the time. This already exists with CCTVs on every major city streetcorner and Ring cameras on every doorstep. Not to mention Tesla cloud-connected cameras pointed inward and outward.

Most of the CCTV and Ring cameras are pretty lousy and they're in fixed locations. All the time I'll be out walking and hear an obnoxious "You are currently being recorded" announcement, but I'm far enough away from that cheap camera that I'm probably a shadowy figure in a grainy video.

These VR headsets on the other hand are high-quality, very close to other people, and mobile.

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Post by prmoustache »

CPLX wrote: post #264
prmoustache wrote: post #215

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I guess that is based on experience as I have commuted in the swiss alps for years by train. There is even a tunnel when you are comming from Freiburg in direction of Lausanne/Geneva where you can count down the exact moment the tourists will let escape a collective woooaaaaah once the train exit the tunnel to a majestic view of Lake of Geneva with the alps and the Mont Blanc in the background. There are some views y…

I mean you literally live in Switzerland. It's the most photogenic place on the planet. Some of us live in places like Baltimore, or Staten Island.

I am not living there anymore and I still like to take the train and enjoy looking at the window. Sometimes it is just looking at people doing stuff.

You might find that real life is boring, I find that most tv shows and movies are super predictable, following the very similar scenaristic mechanics and aren't more entertaining. Obviously some are also very nice, but these are the ones you would like to watch comfortably on your sofa or in a theater, not in a train or plane anyway.

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Post by heeton »

hammock wrote: post #345
steelframe wrote: post #339

My concerns are around the normalization of pointing high-resolution cameras at people around you all the time. Perhaps this specific device may have a company behind it that, at least at the moment, will resist handing the video feed with you in it to the data brokers. Make no mistake though, the data brokers are foaming at the mouth to get access to high-resolution constantly-streaming video content that includes y…

>My concerns are around the normalization of pointing high-resolution cameras at people around you all the time. This already exists with CCTVs on every major city streetcorner and Ring cameras on every doorstep. Not to mention Tesla cloud-connected cameras pointed inward and outward.

I feel it's harder for a tesla to capture footage of a teenager reading a pamphlet on a plane, but who knows what Elon's plans are.
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