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Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by mrguyorama »

blackoil wrote: post #151
Dalewyn wrote: post #89

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Firefox defeated IE which was bundled with Windows at the time. Chrome continues to defeat everyone, including Edge which is bundled with Windows. Firefox's reason for irrelevance today has nothing to do with whether its competitors are bundled with operating systems.

IE team was disbanded and had no release for 5 years.

IE also never had mountains of supposedly techy people instructing naive users to use Chrome because "it's faster", which was only true in the very beginning, as if saving 200ms per page load is worth putting Google in full control of the internet.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by OfSanguineFire »

mrguyorama wrote: post #330
OfSanguineFire wrote: post #205

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> I believe that the Mozilla execs have no faith in Firefox and instead are using whatever branding remains to position themselves as champions of digital rights. That’s a charitable interpretation. An uncharitable one would be that, due to flaws in American 501c3 legislation, at least some people involved in Mozilla view their job as a sinecure. Capture of a non-profit for personal benefit is a longstanding phenomen…

Ah yes, meanwhile I still get to use the only browser not made by the Gigacorp trying to put advertising anywhere they can. People get so pissy about mozilla pissing away a few dollars here and there, or maybe is full of people just extracting cash from the brand. Meanwhile google as a corporation extracts a tax on pretty much anything that touches the internet. But sure, mozilla is the bad guy here and we shouldn't…

> People get so pissy about mozilla pissing away a few dollars here and there

It’s more than a few dollars. For years now, the majority of the Mozilla Foundation’s income goes to things other than developing Firefox.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by mrguyorama »

phatfish wrote: post #254
Zuiii wrote: post #24

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Tangentially related, but your comment reminded me of this classic: https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/discussions/mozilla-now-only-...

Maybe if author of that comment put as much effort into developing their own browser as they seemed to put into that weird rant we would have a new Chrome competitor which meets their exceptions.

The entitlement and blatant hypocrisy of Mozilla haters is insane. "Mozilla does weird things to try and diversify their income so that Google cannot shut them down one day randomly if they're finally competitive, but that's not the one blessed thing of committing code to the single blessed repository of Firefox, so instead I'm going to use the browser built by a company that makes all of its money through advertising, explicitly sends pretty much everything you do in their browser to their advertising apparatus, repeatedly pushed unnecessary "standards" that would make it easier to fingerprint users, and is now trying to tee-up a standard that will make it possible to cryptographically prevent users from blocking ads in the future."

Come the fuck on

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by maverick74 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #283
driscoll42 wrote: post #271

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Can someone elaborate why Mozilla gets hate? I don't pay much attention to that and just use Firefox.

Check out this news post from 5 days ago about Mozilla's finances: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37015592

I was not aware of this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This just made my mind blow up...

If it's true, then it's REALLY BAD!!!

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by mrguyorama »

OfSanguineFire wrote: post #342
mrguyorama wrote: post #330

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Ah yes, meanwhile I still get to use the only browser not made by the Gigacorp trying to put advertising anywhere they can. People get so pissy about mozilla pissing away a few dollars here and there, or maybe is full of people just extracting cash from the brand. Meanwhile google as a corporation extracts a tax on pretty much anything that touches the internet. But sure, mozilla is the bad guy here and we shouldn't…

> People get so pissy about mozilla pissing away a few dollars here and there It’s more than a few dollars. For years now, the majority of the Mozilla Foundation’s income goes to things other than developing Firefox.

Yes, mozilla is desperate to diversify income so google can't shut them down, and if you are a manager who can usefully direct improvements and plans for a web browser project, google can afford to pay you basically any dollar amount to keep you out of the hands of mozilla, so they probably don't have stellar management.

Meanwhile firefox works well, is plenty performant, and isn't pushing "standards" that try to make it easier to advertise to me, against my wishes. Why would you use the browser made by an advertising company instead?

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by barbariangrunge »

godelski wrote: post #58

There's a lot of hate any Firefox and the "blessed apps." But come on, chrome and Safari don't sorry add-ons at all! I know there are other apps that support add-ons but the fact is that Firefox is __the only__ "mainstream" browser that does this (quotes because it's 0.25% in the US, as the 4th most popular, behind Samsung fucking Internet). It's popular to hate on Firefox, but this is the nerdiest of nerd issues and…

My wishlist for firefox on ios: just make the important addons built-in: ublock origin, facebook containers, cookie auto-delete... really, that's about it.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by maccard »

lolinder wrote: post #235
maccard wrote: post #119

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In $LAST_JOB we used an ancient CI tool called Electric Commander. I don't know if it was us or them, but it didn't work in FF. We currently use playfab in work, and the admin panel is missing a few features on Firefox compared to chrome. Google Meets has been doing some nonsense over the last few weeks on FF causing it to break for our team (and pushed us back to slack huddles). My bank's search functionality doesn'…

I'm not talking about having to switch to Chrome in general—I see that sometimes. I mean a website that requires a particular extension that is Chrome-only.

Oh I know. I use Firefox, but have to switch to chrome for those sites because they don't work in FF. I still use FF, and have done (proudly) since 2007!

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by mrguyorama »

Nextgrid wrote: post #328
mrguyorama wrote: post #325

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Are you pretending that chrome doesn't advertise ? Every single fucking day for a decade now, google.com told me to install chrome, and would even render "pop up" dialogs to that effect on google properties!! What are you all smoking?

An ad telling you to install Chrome is one thing. I don't believe any Google nor Chrome ad had self-righteous BS about privacy, "improving the web" or similar like Mozilla constantly does. Also, ads on websites are one thing. Ads/nags within the browser itself (which I'm already using) are another. I'm pretty sure Google doesn't bother advertising Chrome to users who already use Chrome.

Okay, then how should mozilla fund firefox? They don't have billions upon billions in advertising revenue to backstop a project that exists only to exert more influence and control of the internet.

God damn, people act like money grows on trees when it comes to firefox. I don't care if they flub an attempt at advertising, like the Mr Robot nonsense, because mozilla isn't actively pushing "standards" meant to prevent me from some day being anonymous on the internet or blocking advertising

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by wintermutestwin »

mrguyorama wrote: post #313
wintermutestwin wrote: post #259

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>Firefox lost power-users There is no better vertical tab solution than FireFox + Sidebury. If you are using horizontal tabs, you are not a "power-user" of a browser.

>If you are using horizontal tabs, you are not a "power-user" of a browser. This is just such absurd, elitist, gatekeeping. WTF. How about just not have 400 tabs open? Am I really not a "power user" of my browser because I utilize the bookmark feature. Get over yourself man

>How about just not have 400 tabs open? Because it allows me to access 400 tabs worth of information at a glance.

I am not "gatekeeping," I just think that you aren't using the "power" of the browser if you have On my MBP, I have 10 windows (each with a title representing general category). In each, I have: up to 24 pinned tabs that take up three tab slots up to 30 regular tabs open that I can see without scrolling each of my tabs has 40 characters of name space, which is plenty to know exactly what the tab is

I'm sorry if my post came off as acerbic. I will admit that I am annoyed as hell that:

1. Chrome has such market share when it doesn't have a descent vertical tab solution

2. Safari's vertical tabs are a total joke and Brave's are barely better

3. Firefox doesn't have native vertical tabs so I have to rely on an extension and they make it a total pain to get rid of the horizontal tabs

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by wintermutestwin »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #327
wintermutestwin wrote: post #259

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>Firefox lost power-users There is no better vertical tab solution than FireFox + Sidebury. If you are using horizontal tabs, you are not a "power-user" of a browser.

I'll look at that, but I really have to recommend TreeStyleTab.

Sidebury has trees too, but you can turn it off, which I do because I want 40 characters of tab name space for each tab.
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