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Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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drozycki wrote: post #97
the_gipsy wrote: post #88

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Declarative blocking is the weakest, it barely removes the simplest ads. uBlock doesn't exist for iOS because it is made impossible by apple, their extension API is not a "full" API.

I haven’t seen ads on mobile Safari for as long as I can remember. Whether you choose to believe that is up to you. Can you point to an example where an extension like AdGuard would let an ad slip through? Precompiled declarative blocking is more performant and power efficient than running a content script in a JS VM at page load, which matters on a CPU and battery constrained device. I was responding to a comment cl…

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Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by DoingIsLearning »

asu_thomas wrote: post #108
Dalewyn wrote: post #87

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>It's popular to hate on Firefox, I don't hate Firefox, I hate Mozilla.

Why?

- They lost focus with just about every other project other than Firefox & Thunderbird which were the actual products I donated money for

- They are (recently) very top heavy for a non-profit foundation and are spending non-negligible amounts of money on C-level and execs

- Ideologically I disagree with them taking money with strings attached from Alphabet

- (Personally) their recent trends of UX with 'dummyfication' and mimicking chrome is a terrible loss

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by friend_and_foe »

orra wrote: post #106
friend_and_foe wrote: post #50

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Yep, and I still have to deal with my settings being reset every time I update, their user hostile UX flows, strange highlights on web page elements, and all the other stuff Firefox says aren't important to users. But I do it, why? So that all those scaremongers who screech "but you have to use Firefox! Otherwise youre helping the evil only other game in town!" like they always do don't have a single argument. Mozill…

> Mozilla shows utter disdain for their users with just about every announcement, update, new feature or new restriction This is absolute hyperbole. Have you forgotten the context? You're on a story about full extension support being implemented, which is exactly what you wanted.

Taking that away was just the last straw. Trust has been broken, and I don't like being bullshitted and abused, and then brow beaten and guilt tripped for not liking it. I use tools that respect me and do what I need them to do, I refuse to be herded into a set of acceptable behaviors and thoughts like a cow, and by a corporation no less. The people making decisions at Mozilla should be ashamed of themselves.

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Post by maccard »

mrd3v0 wrote: post #62
lemper wrote: post #48

even though i am an exclusively firefox user both on desktop and mobile, i don't even know what kind of desktop version's extension that i would use on mobile. currently, i only use adblock and so far my experience is quite stellar. though it should be noted that i use browser on phone just to consume text. no video, no audio, and even picture is rarely the focus. so, what do i miss?

Dark Reader, LocalCDN, Firefox Relay, Firefox Translations, LanguageTool among others I have installed on Iceraven, a Firefox for Android fork.

Dark Reader and Relay are both on Android. I'm not sold on LocalCDN being necessary or even helpful these days (but there was a time when it was. A bit like antiviruses other than Windows defender these days, or those registry cleaner tools).

The others are missing for sure, though.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by asu_thomas »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #113
asu_thomas wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why?

- They lost focus with just about every other project other than Firefox & Thunderbird which were the actual products I donated money for - They are (recently) very top heavy for a non-profit foundation and are spending non-negligible amounts of money on C-level and execs - Ideologically I disagree with them taking money with strings attached from Alphabet - (Personally) their recent trends of UX with 'dummyfication'…

Thanks for explaining. I can't help but ask why you believe these things have happened? What went wrong and what is the alternative to Firefox?

I am approximately as cynical as they come, and I'm not sure how Firefox could even exist if Google weren't keeping Mozilla alive (on life support), so I am intrigued by your criticism. I'd like to understand your viewpoint and what ideology is behind it, if any. In your view, what should be done?

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by andyjohnson0 »

hexo wrote: post #68
yukIttEft wrote: post #60

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> Creating a "custom" collection of Add-Ons on addons.mozilla.org can be done using a disposable email address. I seriously don't get it. Why do I have to create a "custom collection" with an email address to install an extension. Why can't it work like it does on PC ?

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> Because of stage 2.5 - i.e. User abuse by company.

Not everything fits into the framework of enshitification. This is about the transition to ff/android supporting the full range of extensions. Its a transitional measure.

Re: Firefox desktop extensions coming soon for the upcoming Android release

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Post by maccard »

lolinder wrote: post #27
sfmike wrote: post #19

Would it be possible to inject chrome extensions somehow into firefox that is the final piece where some websites force to just use chrome and it's really annoying and the singular time you have to switch for their chrome based widget/extension to do that websites functionality?

I have never run into this. What websites are you referring to?

In $LAST_JOB we used an ancient CI tool called Electric Commander. I don't know if it was us or them, but it didn't work in FF.

We currently use playfab in work, and the admin panel is missing a few features on Firefox compared to chrome. Google Meets has been doing some nonsense over the last few weeks on FF causing it to break for our team (and pushed us back to slack huddles). My bank's search functionality doesn't work on FF (but the app works so I use that instead)

Ironically, the biggest source of website breakages for me is extensions. UBlock breaks _way_ more, and I just disable it on a site by site basis.

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Post by veave »

godelski wrote: post #58

There's a lot of hate any Firefox and the "blessed apps." But come on, chrome and Safari don't sorry add-ons at all! I know there are other apps that support add-ons but the fact is that Firefox is __the only__ "mainstream" browser that does this (quotes because it's 0.25% in the US, as the 4th most popular, behind Samsung fucking Internet). It's popular to hate on Firefox, but this is the nerdiest of nerd issues and…

Most of Firefox's publicity is based on the fact that they are "on your side". That means that they are held to a much higher standard. Pretending to be on the side of the user and then screwing users up over and over seems like wanting their cake and eating it too?

It's funny because, you know, I expect chrome to screw me over while I expect firefox not to screw me over but chrome has screwed me over fewer times than firefox over the years.

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