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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by JohnFen »

scrollaway wrote: post #104
IgorPartola wrote: post #68

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Reminder that MS owns GitHub, LinkedIn, and Mojang.

LinkedIn could never be trusted anyway :) But I think all these different divisions just act radically different within microsoft. What is absolutely certain is that the Windows team cannot be trusted, as they have shown repeatedly. GitHub has not broken my trust in them yet. I'm sure one day it'll happen; statistically it's more likely than not. But what's the point in pre-empting it, exactly?

Yep, LinkedIn was always bad. But I don't trust GitHub or Mojang to any greater degree. They're all Microsoft, and will burn you sooner or later.

> GitHub has not broken my trust in them yet.

I abandoned GitHub as soon as MS bought it, but I think my choice was a good one. If I hadn't, then I would have felt betrayed by the copilot stuff.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by jimsimmons »

jqpabc123 wrote: post #333
jimsimmons wrote: post #306

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Question is who is more predatory not who makes more money

How do you measure "predatory" if not by revenue/money made? Google's privacy invasion spans the globe. They have the world's most popular browser feeding them user's web activity. They have the most popular mobile OS feeding them users' physical location. They operate the world's most popular email service feeding them users mail habits and purchase receipts. They have trackers embedded on virtually all of the world…

You’re again confusing being large with being more predatory.

There are more mosquitoes than tigers

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by kernal »

NotYourLawyer wrote: post #280
kernal wrote: post #263

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So now we've gone from respecting the user privacy to "least bad". You're either for user privacy or you're not.

I mean, I guess use lynx if you’re that worried about it. Or use Firefox and spend 2 minutes customizing about:config. My point was just that Firefox is a lot better than Brave. I’ll stand by that.

User privacy is a fallacy. The standards we judge applications are thrown out the window relative to the services we use in everyday life. Do you think your ISP, TV service, Cellphone carrier, Credit Card company, etc. care about your privacy and don't sell your data? The answer is rhetorical. Yet these user privacy hypocrites somehow exempt these egregious violations because it's just the way it is.

I mean, heaven forbid Google stores my data in their impenetrable ultra secure data centers, but ISP's, TV providers, Cellphone carriers and Credit Card companies - go to town with my data and sell it to as many data brokers as you can.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by hot_gril »

beodbdodbsk wrote: post #252
hot_gril wrote: post #67

I installed Windows 10 (not even 11!) recently on a random laptop and was appalled by the amount of BS in the initial setup process. Forced me to make a Microsoft online account seemingly with remote access to my PC, tried to sign me up for several different free trials, then tried multiple times to push me to Edge instead of Chrome. The UI has new crap like the Bing search on the taskbar and in the center of the des…

the only difference for osx is that apple leaves that data collection to when you try to download security updates for your apps. Microsoft at least let us get security updates without accounts aftet we dodge all that during install. apple doesn't. login or get out.

You don't need an account to update your OS, and you don't need to download apps from the Mac App Store (I never do).

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by JohnFen »

Dalewyn wrote: post #330
donmcronald wrote: post #53

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It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.

>Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. I trust Microsoft far more than I trust Google.

I trust them both to exactly the same degree.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by JohnFen »

f1shy wrote: post #117
Melting_Harps wrote: post #98

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> Sending medical images to Microsoft seems like a major HIPAA violation. Without sounding to condescending: Bro... this entire Industry still relies on using fax or snailmail for records. Using slow, leaky, non-private/seure channels for sensitive information is not as much of a concern to this field than one thinks if you've been in the belly of the beast. Ask anyone who has spent anytime doing IT work at a hospita…

Waaaaait! In the US also the FAX is still a thing?! Seriously?! I have heard terrible stories from Germany and Japan, but did not know that also the US…

> In the US also the FAX is still a thing?! Seriously?!

Yep. My current employer, as well as the two prior to this one, all have and use fax machines despite being tech companies. Not because they want to, but because so many other companies out there still require it.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by kernal »

robertlagrant wrote: post #282
kernal wrote: post #269

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>The disclosure by MOFCOM on April 8, 2014 is a direct result of Microsoft’s acquisition of Nokia’s mobile handset unit as that deal required approval by the Anti-Monopoly Bureau of MOFCOM. The disclosed lists were part of the antitrust review. >Of the two lists of Microsoft patents disclosed by MOFCOM2, one was a list of 310 patents which included 73 "standard-essential” patents (SEPs) for smartphones; 127 patents w…

> With this disclosure, China may be attempting to counteract Microsoft’s chokehold on the smartphone market This is a very strange statement! But thanks - appreciate the link. Not sure how the "media player in the taskbar" got in there, but that's patents for you.

At the time Microsoft was strong-arming every Android OEM into paying royalty payments or else. Samsung paid more than a billion dollars to Microsoft in royalty payments for those questionable patents. I'd call that a chokehold.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-29505439

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by zmmmmm »

IgorPartola wrote: post #68
donmcronald wrote: post #53

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It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.

Reminder that MS owns GitHub, LinkedIn, and Mojang.

to layer on top of those: half the modern developer ecosystem via VSCode.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Post by juve1996 »

worrycue wrote: post #129
donmcronald wrote: post #53

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It’s crazy. I used Edge when it first switched to Chromium because it was a nice, clean Chrome alternative with working sync. Today it’s obvious Microsoft can’t be trusted. This “feature” is insane and it makes me concerned about what Windows might be doing in the background.

I just had the Edge Desktop Search Bar show up on my desktop. It just appeared from nowhere. Didn't even know when it was "installed". MS is getting really pushy. They probably see the GPT stuff as their ticket to beating Google in search so they are pushing it as hard as they can to get as many users as they can. I just click "turn off". I don't trust LLMs - all their knowledge is learned from the unreliable interne…

Just happened to me this week, same thing. Out of nowhere. It also auto-signed me into Edge, when I never did it before in my life. It really is getting ridiculous now.
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