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Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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I installed Windows 10 (not even 11!) recently on a random laptop and was appalled by the amount of BS in the initial setup process. Forced me to make a Microsoft online account seemingly with remote access to my PC, tried to sign me up for several different free trials, then tried multiple times to push me to Edge instead of Chrome. The UI has new crap like the Bing search on the taskbar and in the center of the des…

Is pass-through good enough on modern hardware where I can just run a windows VM for gaming and then shutdown windows when I'm done? This would be the ideal scenario for me. I applaud Valve's efforts with proton, but I think Microsoft will start pushing back. I bet starfield will be very difficult to run well in Linux, for example.

yes, with vfio. I've had a windows 10 in a VM on my "main desktop" for nearly 3 years now. Gentoo gets two screens and an "ok" GPU, windows gets the beefier GPU and its own screen. I use qemu, there may be other ways to do it. The linux machine can't "see" the other GPU or screen(s).

if you want to do this, there are a couple of gotchas. One i'd recommend bearing in mind is not using identical cards. Either two vendors or two different types of cards (like a 1060 and a 1070). This makes it easier to stub the windows card and also write/edit the scripts (which are probably searchable on goog with "vfio-bind").

The second is one that i lost the information about, but if it affects you, it should be possible to dig up the info. Some games get micro-stuttering or stuttering when running with vfio under qemu; the fix can be an application that applies settings on windows or editing the windows registry.

All that aside, it works fine. The audio latency is minimal, but if you have a machine with more than 24 PCIe lanes, you can just dedicate an entire USB PCI card to windows, passing that through and plugging all the windows related hardware through that.

I think Linus (LTT) mentioned doing something like this, virtualizing even multiple windows machines on a single machine with the threadripper (32-64 lanes) and Epyc (64, 96, or 128 lanes) - having a dedicated USB and GPU for each virtualized desktop. Nice.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Geez can hacker news users no longer detect sarcasm? This comment is clearly pointing out the absurdity (or more specifically, incompleteness) of the grandparent argument, not bashing on Linux.

You don't recognize that the comment that you are replying to is a sarcastic extension of the argument?

Sorry for confusion, I meant my comment as a reply to my siblings.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Brave --- the easy way to fix this and lots of other privacy related issues affecting the most popular web browsers. As this article shows, you can fiddle with Edge and other browsers to try and make them more privacy respecting --- but why bother trying to hit a constantly moving target? Clearly, your privacy is not in their best interests and they will only continue to circumvent it.

Brave is literally an ad funded company that made a pinky promise to only do good ad stuff. Boggles my mind that people view them as the solution to privacy

Marketing.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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When are people going to grow a backbone and switch to Linux? It's kind of hard to feel sorry for tech-literate Windows users

> When are people going to grow a backbone and switch to Linux?

When Linux becomes an actual viable platform for getting work done.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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How does this pass legal review?

What do you see as "illegal", with the very fair assumption that MS is competent, with legal matters?

IANAL but it seems like this potentially exposes MS to enormous liability. For example, doctors routinely use web based tools. When they look at images related to a patient's care and MS uploads them to the mothership, has MS violated HIPAA? What about someone browsing images of child sexual abuse? Is MS liable for storing that illegal content on their servers? When a user uploads illegal content to OneDrive it's easy to blame the user, but when MS is harvesting all the content the user views, I'm not sure they get off so easy.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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This is just bananas to me that a browser would perform "super resolution" at all, much less by default . Couldn't this wreak havoc on doing things like viewing medical images, inserting false detail that isn't there? As well as on text in images, e.g. inventing a cleanly readable but hallucinated license plate number on a car, or financial figure, where the original is blurry? Not only does this seem like a terribly…

OCR in images is becoming the norm. It was a big relief on social media for blind and visually impaired people. Asking for manually created image descriptions and/or transcribed text was too much to ask from the social web. So ML found one of its first public use cases. Composite image description and OCR. And yes, the quality is bad. But nobody really cared about this, esp. not those offering the feature. Holy heart…

> Asking for manually created image descriptions and/or transcribed text was too much to ask from the social web.

Mastodon at least has had a better culture about this in my experience. Possibly worth investigating, and it may have degraded over the last mass migrations.

Re: Edge sends images you view online to Microsoft

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing’s perfect. Firefox is the least-bad of the available options, and it’s pretty good.

So now we've gone from respecting the user privacy to "least bad". You're either for user privacy or you're not.

I mean, I guess use lynx if you’re that worried about it. Or use Firefox and spend 2 minutes customizing about:config.

My point was just that Firefox is a lot better than Brave. I’ll stand by that.

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