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Re: I’m switching from VS Code to VS Codium

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Post by digisign » Wed, Jun 15, 2022, 9:23 PM UTC

antifa wrote: post #327

digisign wrote: post #281

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The company that has been caught with its hand in the cookie jar… I don't know, several hundred times?

The company that doesn't wash it's hands, has it's pants down, is regularly stuffing it's mouth with stolen cookies, doesn't even bother to take it's hand out of the jar when responding to allegations, but also for some reason has numerous shills claiming has done nothing wrong.

Awesome. Wouldn't have put it quite so creatively, yet not able to disagree either. :-D

Re: I’m switching from VS Code to VS Codium

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Post by dannymi » Thu, Jun 16, 2022, 12:53 PM UTC

jefftime wrote: post #65

blip54321 wrote: post #33

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I think most of us value our freedom more. Most people don't think of it in terms of freedom, but freedom it is. With proprietary software: - You don't know when it will disappear or be discontinued. Even your paid-for existing version stops working when the activation servers go down. - You might be forced into an "upgrade" which breaks something you rely on - That's not to mention issues like being able to fix bugs…

To piggyback off this, another reason that I think software freedom is valuable is community support. Things like LSPs, syntax highlighters, and that sort of support doesn't have to wait on JetBrains to integrate it into their IDE. I think there is real value to the community being able to hack on a tool and not being at the whim of a single developer's priorities

I just adapted the intellij-rust plugin from https://github.com/intellij-rust/intellij-rust to syntax highlight Rust slightly better. It works just fine, and I had to coordinate with nobody. Just edit file, build plugin, install plugin to the IDE (using the menu in the GUI interface). That's it.

Most of the stuff of Jetbrains is open source (under Apache Software License) and is available on github.

I know what you mean though: I would never again use a closed-source IDE, or a language with closed-source standard library. Microsoft Visual Studio made me learn that, decades ago.

Re: I’m switching from VS Code to VS Codium

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Post by blip54321 » Thu, Jun 16, 2022, 4:39 PM UTC

andyjohnson0 wrote: post #121

blip54321 wrote: post #33

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I think most of us value our freedom more. Most people don't think of it in terms of freedom, but freedom it is. With proprietary software: - You don't know when it will disappear or be discontinued. Even your paid-for existing version stops working when the activation servers go down. - You might be forced into an "upgrade" which breaks something you rely on - That's not to mention issues like being able to fix bugs…

> You don't know when it will disappear or be discontinued. I've been using Visual Studio pretty much every working day for over twenty years. I have zero worries that is will disappear any time soon. I still think its the best IDE out there, and I've never felt that my freedom was being compromised by using it.

You are so incredibly wrong. Visual Studio was a horrible IDE for most of the past 20 years, relative to competitors. Quite literally the only reason it picked up marketshare was that it supported new Windows features before Borland could. Borland was miles ahead in every other respect.

Microsoft continued to suck, in virtually all respects, relative to competition, until around 2015.

I don't quite understand how Microsoft suddenly became competent, and released an awesome IDE, but that's a very new phenomenon.