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Post by unmole »

foolinaround wrote: post #306
unmole wrote: post #132

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> if you don't speak the native language, you will be at a significant disadvantage when requiring the assistance of police. This is true true virtually everywhere in the world.

> This is true true virtually everywhere in the world. you don't expect it in your OWN country, just moving to a different state, you are an outsider. Its because India was put together just like that, because the British ruled over many peoples and their languages.

> you don't expect it in your OWN country

Which country apart from Papua New Guinea has the linguistic diversity comparable to India? Migrants everywhere understand the need to learn the local language. It's only the Hindi speakers, high on the delusions of national language that see this as a problem.

> Its because India was put together just like that, because the British ruled over many peoples and their languages.

Right, because India didn't have any multilingual polities before the British?

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Post by muzaffarpur »

krzyk wrote: post #280
ddaalluu2 wrote: post #274

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I don't see a problem in trade with Russia. We certainly don't have the moral high ground, also trade is good for peace and living standards.

Europe also thought that trade is good for peace, but it is not if you trade with some countries with long history of double crossing others.

Yeah, expanding NATO everyday post 1989 was a great idea for trade?

Re: Back to India

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Post by [deleted] »

FerociousTimes wrote: post #207
rayiner wrote: post #189

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What your chart shows is that only 9% of Americans want to increase immigration levels, which would be both the actual and perceived effect of any effort to create a real permanent immigrant system for skilled workers.

What the chart reveals is that there's no general dislike for immigration and more specifically immigrants themselves as your previous comments might suggest.

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Re: Back to India

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Post by sudhirkhanger »

sudhirkhanger wrote: post #110
riantogo wrote: post #99

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Shit on your own country? What does that even mean? The place you were born by chance? Now you have to “own” it as an identity? Do you have the same beliefs about government? religion? caste? race? I suggest you try freeing yourself of such burden.

Do an exercise for me since you have freed yourself from the burden of natural identity. Go to a foreign nation and destroy your password. It will teach you a practical lesson in natural identity. Do make sure to go to a nation that you think is the greatest nation in human lifetime.

passport not password.

Re: Back to India

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Post by krzyk »

muzaffarpur wrote: post #342
krzyk wrote: post #280

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Europe also thought that trade is good for peace, but it is not if you trade with some countries with long history of double crossing others.

Yeah, expanding NATO everyday post 1989 was a great idea for trade?

Yes, it was, Russians didn't attack NATO members. And countries desperately want to join so they won't be attacked by Russia.

NATO will loose its purpose when Russia disappears.

Re: Back to India

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Post by thawaya3113 »

krzyk wrote: post #267
yumraj wrote: post #255

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As always the reality is complicated, and yes, India does see a problem with the invasion. India is not like China where the media is openly supporting the Russian narrative. India is merely keeping quiet, with many in the media telling it to take a more open position against Russia. India has massive dependency on Russian military hardware and spare parts. So what should it do, just break off with Russia over a war…

Whole Eastern Europe has mostly Russian military hardware and guess what, we are basically enemies with Russia and we manage. We buy new equipment from Western countries now but large majority of equipment is still Soviet made. Choices. BTW. Regarding the oil and gas, India started buying when it didn't need to . EU is dependent on that oil and gas (Eastern Europe was forced on that dependency, Westerners stupidly jo…

Eastern Europe is the one being attacked. Not India.

It’s pretty obvious that the 2 would have different responses.

Also, if dependence is irrelevant, then why is the EU a continuing to buy Russian gas? To the tune of $35bn since Russia invaded Ukraine, compared to the $1bn they’ve given Ukraine?

I don’t blame them for it. I can understand that it’s pretty much impossible to unravel those decades of dependence in months, and trying to do that immediately will likely be counterproductive.

And India recognizes the same about its own Russian policy. They know they need to move away, but they also recognize the dangers of doing so in a thoughtless and rushed manner.

Further, unlike your conveniently specific black and white thinking, other countries like those in the EU (which haven’t said anything to India), the US (which has tried diplomatic persuasion but has not threatened any negative consequences), Australia, Japan, etc, all understand where India is coming from. And even though it is their duty to at least try to persuade India to shift its stance, they know it’s not gonna happen and understand why it won’t happen at such short notice, which is why they’ve been neutral to supportive.

Re: Back to India

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Post by thawaya3113 »

krzyk wrote: post #267
yumraj wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As always the reality is complicated, and yes, India does see a problem with the invasion. India is not like China where the media is openly supporting the Russian narrative. India is merely keeping quiet, with many in the media telling it to take a more open position against Russia. India has massive dependency on Russian military hardware and spare parts. So what should it do, just break off with Russia over a war…

Whole Eastern Europe has mostly Russian military hardware and guess what, we are basically enemies with Russia and we manage. We buy new equipment from Western countries now but large majority of equipment is still Soviet made. Choices. BTW. Regarding the oil and gas, India started buying when it didn't need to . EU is dependent on that oil and gas (Eastern Europe was forced on that dependency, Westerners stupidly jo…

Regd, India buying oil from Russia, while I personally disagree with the decision and think it’s ridiculously short sighted (the long term value of the lost goodwill by doing this will be orders of magnitude greater than any money saved by buying Russian oil), to put it simply, there are no sanctions on Russian oil.

There is absolutely no reason India shouldn’t buy Russian oil. Especially when the EU continues to do so.

The only country that has any standing complaining about Indian purchases of Russian oil is the US. And they haven’t complained about it because they recognize the hypocrisy of criticizing India buying a few millions worth of oil while not saying anything to Europe buying a few billions worth of oil.

Re: Back to India

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Post by ramraj07 »

throwaway_1928 wrote: post #334
ramraj07 wrote: post #331

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There are better visa options for more skilled workers. Like the O1, or if you’re smart the L1 for international orgs with some stint outside. Or you can even start a company in a H1B. Or if you did make a lot of money an EB5. The list is long.

Let us say this young author has a master's degree from MIT and has worked a few years on an H1B at Tesla. But he does not have a PhD and does not publish research. And he is a very good engineer but does not care for management work. And he does not have a couple of million lying around to splurge on an EB5 visa. So his visa category will be 'EB2' and his wait time for a green card will be more than 100 years. Now l…

I am in the exact same category as OP , and there are options. Yes they are annoying. But so is Indian politics and bureaucracy. I view them as equally annoying.

Re: Back to India

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Post by fellellor »

nindalf wrote: post #119
fellellor wrote: post #118

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I’ve never declined to dine or drink with anyone of whatever caste. Most people I’ve seen in cities across India don’t care. Basically Caste in India is as much of a problem as racism is in the US.

Ah yes of course, you’ve never been casteist, so it’s not a problem in India. Please watch these two videos and let me know if you still think so. - Caste Conundrum: Why do upper castes believe discrimination doesn’t exist? - https://youtu.be/vjt8aBoejho (1.4M views). - What Hathras tells us about Casteism in India - https://youtu.be/ELbdGh0-4T4 . (300k views)

I didn’t say it’s not a problem in India. I clearly didn’t say that.

Re: Back to India

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Post by sshkhr »

pm90 wrote: post #41
andrewshadura wrote: post #33

India is great, but the pollution is big cities is intolerable.

Depends on which ones, though. And there has been a ton of investment in public transit systems, so its likely going to be a very different place after all these systems are built out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKcendj7TNM

India has 63 out of the world's 100 most polluted cities: https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/delhi-is-worlds-most-pollute...

Most large cities in India are extremely polluted, and the smaller ones aren't necessarily any better. I have been all over India, over 15 states and union territories. Even the cleanest Indian cities I have been to (e.g. Chandigarh and Puducherry) are filthier than a regular city in other countries I've visited. It will take massive overhaul of garbage disposal and recycling infrastructure, as well as a massive cultural shift in how we treat our public spaces to overcome our enormous pollution problem.

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