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Ask HN: Beating depression with or without anti-depressants?

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Re: Ask HN: Beating depression with or without anti-depressants?

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Two books to check out: How to Change your Mind by Michael Pollan and The Mind Illuminated by Culadasa (John Yates, PhD)

Meditation and/or psychedelic drugs (microdosing or macrodosing) are tools that will help you on your journey immensely.

We’ve been using psychedelics for thousands of years. Nothing to write off about this powerful medicine.

Re: Ask HN: Beating depression with or without anti-depressants?

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PLEASE do not read any of these people's advice. Talk to a MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL, preferably a DOCTOR. DO NOT trust your mental health to strangers on the internet, be it reddit, or hacker news, or whatever. If you are based in the US and live nearby a university they usually have good counseling services and the infrastructure to refer people even if you're not attending the school. Search "{school} counseling servic…

Yes!

Depression can be caused by hormonal imbalances. It's tricky to get things right-- see a doctor!

Re: Ask HN: Beating depression with or without anti-depressants?

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>superpower of being resilient against life's wraths. how?

Therapy changed the way I see life and toned down my expectations. I live less in the future and more in the present. I judge myself less and feel emotions more.

Tone down expectations.

This is the silver bullet in my opinion.

How do you define fairness, rethink it and tone down your expectations.

How do you define love / relationships? Rethink it and tone down your expectations.

How do you define work / career / success? Rethink it and tone down your expectations.

I honestly believe this is a huge help.

A therapist who is a good fit for you is very hard to find. Learning about the skills you need to reorganize the way you view yourself and the world, simpler and the solution which a good therapist will help you with.

As someone who has suffered from depression and been negatively impacted by bad medical interactions for this and other conditions, the only choice is to do the work myself.

Re: Ask HN: Beating depression with or without anti-depressants?

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Depression runs in my family but daily exercise completely reverses it. I’m referring to 60m+ of cardio average per day. Anytime I go more than 2 days without exercise, I’m immediately under a dark cloud. I’ve heard plenty of people say it doesn’t work for them. I have to assume they’ve actually tried it for a length of time and it’s true. But it’s at least worth finding out of it works for you before resorting to me…

That’s a lot of cardio. Especially as you age? Do you have a contingency for injuries?

Cycling and other forms of cardio can be done well into old age. Sure I’ll eventually be forced to wind down, but that doesn’t seem relevant to whether I do lots of cardio at my current age.

Re: Ask HN: Beating depression with or without anti-depressants?

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A month ago, I started taking N-acetylcysteine (NAC) 600mg twice a day. My anxiety has reduced to about 10% of its previous intensity and frequency. This is the biggest quality-of-life improvement of my entire life. Maybe NAC will help you, too?

A few years ago, I had fatigue. My doctor tested my blood and found extremely low vitamin D. I started taking vitamin D3, magnesium glycinate, and vitamin B. My fatigue mostly disappeared about three weeks later.

About a year ago, I had brain fog. I took 75mg pure CBD (FreshBros.com gummies) every night for two weeks. The brain fog went away.

After taking caffeine or alcohol, I usually have increased anxiety the next day. Avoid these drugs.

After a 5-mile walk, my mood improves for a day or two. I listen to audio books to avoid ruminating. I enjoyed th Culture series by Iain M Banks. Downpour.com has a decent iOS app. Bose SoundSport bluetooth headphones are comfortable and practical. Darn Tough Merino Full Cushion socks are very comfortable and last 150 miles. I use a backpack to carry water, snack, sun hat, sweater, and rain jacket.

During the worst of the pandemic, I found it difficult to concentrate on work during the day. I added some very bright lights to my workspace. Afterward, I noticed a significant improvement in focus and mood. I use two IKEA floor lamps with FEIT PAR38 55W LED 5000-lumen bulbs illuminating the ceiling and wall around my monitor. I also use three FEIT OM200 25W 3000-lumen bulbs in a ceiling fixture.

I hope you find good solutions to your mood problems.

Re: Ask HN: Beating depression with or without anti-depressants?

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You're playing with people's lives when you give them medical advice without being qualified to do so. If you trust a stranger's anecdotes on the Internet over your doctor (or even your own massively undereducated and biased interpretation of the situation), you are a fool, full stop. Unfortunately, sometimes the very disease you have causes you to make foolish decisions. The only sane answer here is to get help from…

You didn't even read what I wrote: "Regardless, I think it's important for people to trust their own judgement, and weigh anecdotal experiences and advice from regular people, with the understanding that all advice comes from a certain context."

Yes, that advice is both wrong and wildly irresponsible to give.

Re: Ask HN: Beating depression with or without anti-depressants?

#347
Obviously, talk to medical professionals first and foremost, but based on some (non-professional) review of the literature, it seems to suggest that SSRIs solve the problem “flawlessly” in around half of those prescribed. For the other half, it doesn’t seem to work out as well (perhaps misdiagnoses?), but if you were prescribed these drugs, I would very much take these chances. If it doesn’t work, you can just stop taking it (at the doctor’s advice) and the side-effects will clear up shortly, so not much to loose.

My anecdotal experience is similar, it greatly helps some of my friends, while not doing much for others who were later turned out to not have depression to begin with.

Re: Ask HN: Beating depression with or without anti-depressants?

#348
Based on my exp: do get rid of depression, you need to get rid of the underlying reasons. But - you just cannot think straight while being depressed. So you most times cannot find out what the issue is or how to conquer it. ADs (imho) help you open your eyes for the underlying issues AND to the fact that these CAN (most of times) be remedied.

I have had diagnosed depression twice, took ADs both times. But i see that it will come back, as there is an issue (others i removed/remedied) in my life which is out of my control completely, but which will be MOSTLY solved in abt 6y or so. So ive made a decision that i suffer this, take note when i get depressed, talk to my doc and get ADs. Disclaimer: im from EU, so it is really cheap for me to get ADs AND therapy (tho i might have to wait some for the therapy). Oh, and time and time again, vit D and C have helped to raise the gray curtain too, when the depression hits at the end of winter/beg of spring (living in N hemisphere, fairly dark and freezing for half a year)

Re: Ask HN: Beating depression with or without anti-depressants?

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Depression runs in my family but daily exercise completely reverses it. I’m referring to 60m+ of cardio average per day. Anytime I go more than 2 days without exercise, I’m immediately under a dark cloud. I’ve heard plenty of people say it doesn’t work for them. I have to assume they’ve actually tried it for a length of time and it’s true. But it’s at least worth finding out of it works for you before resorting to me…

That’s a lot of cardio. Especially as you age? Do you have a contingency for injuries?

A bungie rebounder (mini trampoline) is a good exercise. It gets your heart rate up and exercises pretty much every muscle in your body while being low impact and easy on your joints. NASA did a study back in the 70's and claimed it was more efficient than jogging with less joint stress.

Even if you can't stand, you can get health benefits from bouncing while merely sitting on it. Even people who are paralyzed can benefit by sitting on it and be bounced by another person.

You can watch videos or chat while doing it. You don't have to worry about bad weather. It's almost silent so you can do it even while others are sleeping in the same room. You can hold or wear weights while doing it to increase strength. It doesn't take much space and some have folding legs for storing behind or under other furniture and some even fold the frame for storage or transportation.

Re: Ask HN: Beating depression with or without anti-depressants?

#350

PLEASE do not read any of these people's advice. Talk to a MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL, preferably a DOCTOR. DO NOT trust your mental health to strangers on the internet, be it reddit, or hacker news, or whatever. If you are based in the US and live nearby a university they usually have good counseling services and the infrastructure to refer people even if you're not attending the school. Search "{school} counseling servic…

I found strangers online to be more effective than doctors, simply because they read to much on the matter, then they interact too much with you. I basically got diagnosed online by 2 different people about 2 different issues, one is biological, and the other is mental. And they were right. This is nerds out there who read about topics constantly, way more than the average doctor, not even close. So a stranger can he…

This is a great approach
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