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Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Tbh I just pay for YT premium. I hate ads that much and always said I’d pay to avoid them. Money where my mouth is.

Sponsorblock is still required with YT premium. And because uBlock has to be installed for other sites anyway, YT premium does not add any value..

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Vanced was proprietary, it's too bad for users but I won't shed a tear for its developers and would actually advise against doing anything that keeps it living. The very fact that there is a need to get apk archives before the links die is an artifact of being proprietary and would not have been an issue with Libre Software. The only way that makes sense for all of us as a democratic society is to keep control, and t…

I don't get this argument against proprietary software. People building software should be able to expect payment for their work and effort. Food is required for a healthy society but would anyone here advocate for farmers to give away all of their produce for free? Text-tiles are necessary for society but would you advocate that clothing be provided by the creators free of charge? The only thing different about soft…

> I don't get this argument against proprietary software. People building software should be able to expect payment for their work and effort.

Vanced is literally a cracked version of Google's software though, to remove all the revenue checks.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Sorry to shit on this, but NewPipe sucks. In my experience it's a waste of time to try and use it as a YT client replacement. It barely works, if at all. Casting definitely never ever worked for me, not even once. The user experience is unfamiliar and seems significantly worse than Vanced. Vanced is what the official youbutt app should've been. RIP.

Rather than just dis, could you be specific? It works for me, and I know a number of people who use it since they find it is better for them than the official client.

- Video playback breaks regularly and it takes 4-5 days for fixes to hit F-Droid. This is waaaay too slow.

- Random other stuff keeps breaking, not that the 100+ lines of recursive Java gibberish in the crash popups tell you what broke (but the crash reporter itself does break regularly, too)

- App structure is counterintuitive: You have tabs on the main screen, and the side bar... duplicates the tab buttons, but turns the tabs into overlays that disable search and other functions? What?

- Content discovery is a mess: I cannot search specific channels. I cannot sort results. I cannot access channel playlists. It's always faster to open a browser and use the youtube website for this, even on mobile.

- Content organization is a mess: I cannot sort anything, period. Nor can I filter (e.g. to filter out videos already watched, or filter for videos started but not finished, ...), or bookmark specific videos, or do anything else with the content.

- Speaking of already watched videos, tracking progress isn't reliable.

- A few updates ago, video playback was turned into a multi-stage procedure, and now I need 3+ clicks to exit a video that already finished playing. What?

- Video overlay UX is horrible. I don't even know what details to go into, nothing about it is intuitive and I ended up crashing Newpipe a few times just trying to exit it (or go back to regular view), and I gave up on ever trying to use it.

And so on and so forth. That's just off the top of my head.

NewPipe works if you're subscribed to a small amount of channels that update rarely, and you go watch each video when it comes out, so you don't lose track of what's where and what you watched, and don't mind the occasional youtube-free week. For anything else it breaks down quickly, and hard.

If you're, like me, subscribed to a dozen channels that have backlogs in the hundreds of videos to go through, it's a nightmare. I force myself to use it to minimize my exposure to YT's website/client, but I am not enjoying the experience and cannot in good conscience recommend it to anyone else.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Just a nitpick, the word it's does not imply possession, you are looking for 'its'. If you cannot substitute your usage of it's with 'it is' then it is the wrong one to use.

Thanks, I always get confused about this and believe it or not, I almost majored in English! Even trying to query Google for the correct rules for it's/its doesn't turn up clear, concise information as you've achieved here in two sentences. Tragically, it's another case of SEO'd to death .

it's is always short for it is.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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I pay for YTM, so haven’t ever tried any of these Adblocking things for YT. I think $10/mo is pretty decent for a music service and also the removal of all ads from YT (which includes their fairly decent library of free movies that would be ad-supported without YTM/YTP)

I've always used Vanced despite having YouTube Premium because the official YouTube app doesn't enable most of the Premium features for me without using a VPN.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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I'm not a power user, but I have found this combination works well: Firefox + uBlock Origin + Video Background Play Fix uBlock Origin -> removes the ads (but no sponsorblock) Video Background Play Fix -> lets you turn off the screen or switch tabs with it still playing

I've got another solution, it's kiwi browser (or Firefox, if they've graciously allowed us to install extensions we want on our machines) + redirector (add on) + invidious.

> Firefox, if they've graciously allowed us to install extensions we want on our machines

The F-Droid guys have forked Firefox for Android to let you use any extension you want. They named it Fennec as the older Firefox, but is just the name, the codebase is the new Fenix one.

https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid/

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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What is the reason for the cease and desist? Code license or use of content? If it's the latter, then NewPipe won't survive either. We really need an alternative to YouTube, not another frontend to this exploitative platform.

Vanced didn't publish the letter, but I'd argue it was a code copyright issue. They applied patches to the original YouTube APK and then distributed it. If they had only distributed the patch diffs themselves and a tool to patch the user-provided YouTube app file, this wouldn't have happened.

Can we not still do this? Can someone reach out to the vanced team to discuss this?

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Just a nitpick, the word it's does not imply possession, you are looking for 'its'. If you cannot substitute your usage of it's with 'it is' then it is the wrong one to use.

Thanks, I always get confused about this and believe it or not, I almost majored in English! Even trying to query Google for the correct rules for it's/its doesn't turn up clear, concise information as you've achieved here in two sentences. Tragically, it's another case of SEO'd to death .

This one is funny, maybe it helps:

https://theoatmeal.com/comics/apostrophe

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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At least for videos I use google spread sheet script to manage a bunch subscriptions into different private playlists accessible via sharelinks in Newpipe with psonsorblock. Allows me to keep things in sync with youtube account on other devices. https://github.com/Elijas/auto-youtube-subscription-playlist... Music I just use the default App and pay for the subscription.

Upgrade to a YouTube Premium family plan for $14.99/mo and have no ads in YT either...

I have no desire to pay 15 for the ability to play videos with the screen off

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Surprised it took so long to be honest. It was so good and unlike with other youtube alternative clients, you basically had almost 1:1 feature parity over the official app. Plus you had the option to disable almost all the recent UI changes easily and a sponsorblock integration. It was much much more of a threat to Google than newpipe or less "normie" friendly alt clients, and it was getting too popular for it's own…

I was under the impression that Vanced was a cracked version of the official app. If that was the case then they deserve to be sued.

If you buy a microwave and modify it, so it doesn't beep when it's done, and offer the modded version to your friends, do you deserve to be sued?
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