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Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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I pay for YTM, so haven’t ever tried any of these Adblocking things for YT. I think $10/mo is pretty decent for a music service and also the removal of all ads from YT (which includes their fairly decent library of free movies that would be ad-supported without YTM/YTP)

Financially supporting Google is the last thing I want to do. I'd rather flush the money down the toilet than pay for Youtube.

Same

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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For those who have the ability to do so, please make an Archive of all the Vanced Versions before the download links are taken down https://mirror.codebucket.de/vanced/

Vanced was proprietary, it's too bad for users but I won't shed a tear for its developers and would actually advise against doing anything that keeps it living. The very fact that there is a need to get apk archives before the links die is an artifact of being proprietary and would not have been an issue with Libre Software.

The only way that makes sense for all of us as a democratic society is to keep control, and this can only be achieved through Libre Software. The real move right now is not to keep existing Vanced content on life support, but to use Newpipe. If it doesn't support the right features, fork it. Enhance it. Use it as the Common it is

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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For those who have the ability to do so, please make an Archive of all the Vanced Versions before the download links are taken down https://mirror.codebucket.de/vanced/

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>- I feel like I'm forgetting another one or two other ralphy shits they've taken on us so far in 2022.

Force people to give up phone number if they want to use gmail over IMAP

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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It's $15 a month here. I don't think I can happily pay $0.50 every day just to be able to keep listening to the news after I push the lock button on my phone. I'd be happy to support youtube if they actually supported their community and content creators, but right now, my opinion on youtube itself is that it's hostile to anyone who needs to use it.

> I'd be happy to support youtube if they actually supported their community and content creators YouTube Premium does support creators, 55% of your subscription gets split among the creators you watch. The more you watch a specific creator, the more they get from your subscription. I've seen some creators say they get more from Premium users than from ad-watching users.

Google keeping 45% of subscription revenue is even worse than the 15% to 30% of app subscription revenue they keep.

For reference, Bandcamp pays creators 85% to 90% of the revenue they generate.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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I read a somewhat long discussion on it a while ago on Github, I'll edit when I find it. Found it! The discussion was regarding Chromecast specifically,so I don't know about other cast setups. Also is from Nov 2021, so possibly out of date at this point? I've linked to the concluding comment here, I found the whole chain worth reading however: https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/issues/668#issuecomme...

Thanks for digging that up Shared404 (btw, cool HN profile, though I can't figure out what is "PFY"?) Is the biggest challenge really in providing an AppID? I must be missing something because that doesn't seem like a big privacy concern or technical hurdle, which brings us back to no traceable logical problem other than "it's hard to do and I don't get paid for this" (which would be a fair position for an OSS mainta…

Many thanks!

The PFY is a reference to a character (the "Pimply Faced Youth") from The Bastard Operator from Hell [0]! I'm just starting out my career, so it felt appropriate.

My understanding is that they mostly didn't want to do anything more involved with Google than scrape a webpage and write an Android app - though I'm not on the team and haven't participated and couldn't say for sure.

I think they have looked at VLC - there's a lengthy workaround lower in the thread via VLC, but I've not read that part in depth.

Actually, just double checked. Looks like theres a mention here: https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe/issues/668#issuecomme... of that being a possibility, but no ones commented on it or made any progress yet afaict.

[0] Originals here: http://bofharchive.com/BOFH.html, and I think The Register has new ones.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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Rather than just dis, could you be specific? It works for me, and I know a number of people who use it since they find it is better for them than the official client.

I've found it very flaky in the past. Half the time it can't load a video or it crashes while playing the video. I'd understand if some of the issues came from being throttled the way yt-dl does, but the Android user agent that my phone has (which is the workaround that yt-dlp uses right now to be unthrottled) should present unthrottled downloads. I have a better experience having a service running on my seedbox whic…

The app has been very stable for me for years now. It breaks every so often when YouTube changes its APIs, but the devs are quick to update it, so it rarely inconveniences me for long.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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NewPipe [1] is an open-source alternative, although latest versions of Vanced will supposedly keep working for the foreseeable future [2]. [1]: https://newpipe.net/ [2]: https://nitter.net/YTVanced/status/1503055442506915846#m

As others have noted, NewPipe lacks a lot of functionality, polish, and just generally breaks far too frequently. I'm in the tech industry so I can deal with the app breaking occasionally, but during my stint using it, it was almost every month that it broke. My girlfriend who has some technical knowledge just gave up on it because it was too frustrating that it kept breaking, and not only that, the devs urged users…

> the devs urged users to download from GitHub instead of F-Droid.

These days they just encourage you to add their repo to F-Droid. I set it up once and it just works now. I get updates as soon as they're available.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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I've found it very flaky in the past. Half the time it can't load a video or it crashes while playing the video. I'd understand if some of the issues came from being throttled the way yt-dl does, but the Android user agent that my phone has (which is the workaround that yt-dlp uses right now to be unthrottled) should present unthrottled downloads. I have a better experience having a service running on my seedbox whic…

The app has been very stable for me for years now. It breaks every so often when YouTube changes its APIs, but the devs are quick to update it, so it rarely inconveniences me for long.

In my case "in the past" was 6 months ago. After the last bout of instability, I just gave up.

Re: Vanced has been discontinued

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I pay for YTM, so haven’t ever tried any of these Adblocking things for YT. I think $10/mo is pretty decent for a music service and also the removal of all ads from YT (which includes their fairly decent library of free movies that would be ad-supported without YTM/YTP)

YouTube Music isn't available in my country. It is literally impossible to pay to remove ads for the 95 million people here.
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