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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Just create and apply better anti-trust laws and break up the monopolies. (Specially since most platforms got their almost monopolies by creating anti-competitive walled gardens with no inter-operation with other similar platforms a la Fediverse / ActivityPub / Diaspora / Friendica) Or better yet, promote counter-anti-desintermediation: https://wiki.p2pfoundation.net/Counter-Anti-Disintermediatio... > The idea of dis…

The most coherent plans in recent times to do exactly that came from Elizabeth Warren. It would have solved the problem elegantly. But people are too partisan (and too fractally partisan within their parties) to listen to a good idea from a person they don't like. https://medium.com/@teamwarren/heres-how-we-can-break-up-big...

Actually,

Many of us on different spectrums (libertarian here) did listen to what Elizabeth Warren said, and we agree with it.

I think there is a great deal of truth in what the anti-monopolist economic crusaders on the left (Sanders&Warren) have said. While I may not agree with everything they said about economics across the board, I do think they are correct in that we have permitted bigtech to become a monopoly. AND, I agree that overly favorable tax jurisdiction shopping is a massive problem.

We need to re-empower the DOJ to pursue antitrust again, and we need it now.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Exactly what I thought. I disagree with the video and lyrics, but there's bigger rappers that have been peddling conspiratorial, third eye awakening wish-wash for at least 20 years. This is a weird video to target, and I feel like there's bigger fish to fry w.r.t. harmful misinformation edit: about COVID. Mostly that the most dangerous misinformation is that which can actually convince people to believe untruths, som…

> but there's bigger rappers that have been peddling conspiratorial, third eye awakening wish-wash for at least 20 years. > This is a weird video to target So we can all agree that YT isn't arbitrarily censoring anti-authoritarian conspiracy theories, but is specifically censoring conspiracy theories related to COVID? This seems like a good thing, that they are casting a narrow net, no? Would you prefer they censor A…

No, I think targeting COVID conspiracies makes sense. I think this video _specifically_ is small fry compared to some with 100k-1M views peddling the same nonsense in prettier packaging. I'm thinking about podcasts, radio show recordings, stuff like PragerU -- that are arguably not art or open for interpretation, but directly trying to convince viewers to believe bullshit surrounding the vaccine, safety, and COVID.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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The idea of treating as a monopoly problem is interesting, but I'm not sure how you prevent centralization like this from repeating itself in the future, given that it is built on network effects. At the end of the day there will be a concentration of audiences somewhere , so I don't think this problem goes away. What I wonder is whether at a certain point we actually need to protect people from themselves. I get how…

> given that it is built on network effects. Network effects can happen in a federated or decentralized way: - Email is useful regardless of the software, OS, server or owner of the address you are sending emails to. - The fediverse benefits from network effects and interoperability between instances with both different software and different communities. I would even go further and argue that centralized "network ef…

Look at the effects of email and "the fediverse" versus these giant social media platforms. Which is greater?

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Lyrics: [Intro: Joe Biden & Bryson Gray] The various shots the people are getting now cover that They're-, they're-, they're okay You're not gonna-, you're not gonna get COVID if you have these vaccinations Somebody gotta do it Ayy [Chorus: Bryson Gray] Let's go, Brandon I keep a drum like I'm Nick Cannon, ayy, ayy, ayy, ayy (Brrt, brrt) Let's go, Brandon Pandemic ain't real, they just planned it, ayy, ayy (They just…

That is... hard to read.

easier to just watch it: https://tv.gab.com/channel/realbrysongray/view/lets-go-brand...

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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The quote is calling the statement "the vaccine will stop the spread of covid" a lie. That statement can be a lie only if the vaccine can not stop the spread. An overly optimistic prediction wouldn't be a lie, so the quote must be calling the vaccine ineffective at best. Regardless of whether the pandemic is over or not, the statement isn't a lie and therefore the quote is incorrect. The vaccine significantly slows t…

> The vaccine significantly slows ths spread Based on what data do you come to that conclusion? The vaccination rate of a country is not correlated with its covid infection rate: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7 And after 3 months of being fully vaccinated, people are just as likely to spread the virus as unvaccinated people: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y From the arti…

Thank you for the links. I followed them and came to a different conclusion:

1) "The vaccination rate of a country is not correlated with its covid infection rate". From the article: "The lack of a meaningful association between percentage population fully vaccinated and new COVID-19 cases is further exemplified, for instance, by comparison of Iceland and Portugal. Both countries have over 75% of their population fully vaccinated and have more COVID-19 cases per 1 million people than countries such as Vietnam and South Africa that have around 10% of their population fully vaccinated." You can interpret this as either the vaccine not working (unlikely) or that high-income countries such as Iceland and Portugal test a larger share of their population than low-income countries such as Vietnam and South Africa (very likely), thus confounding the relationship between vaccination levels and reported Covid cases.

2) "And after 3 months of being fully vaccinated, people are just as likely to spread the virus as unvaccinated people". From the article: "The risk of spreading the Delta infection soon after vaccination with that jab [Pfizer] was 42%, but increased to 58% with time." Your quote shows that the AstraZeneca vaccine loses effectiveness over time. However, the chance of an unvaccinated person passing on the virus is 67%, which is significantly higher than the 58% for a person who received the Pfizer vaccine.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Who cares? Whatever they take down, they can always put back up.

What would you say if Youtube did that to you?

“I never thought leopards would eat my face!”

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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I wonder if they will ban videos about them banning this. This seems like a uniquely stupid hill to die on, regardless of how biased they are toward Biden.

I wonder if Google will eventually have an Offical Party Line on everything. Then they'll just censor straight down the line.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Well done. The song is just stupid political publicity Qmamon style without one single smart line. Nothing valuable is lost

We have a legal system to deal with free speech issues. We already decided not to hold public platforms accountable for what its members publish on their platforms, outside of a few narrow areas. These platforms shouldn't also then censor content, whether you agree or not with the content, once they are already benefitting from the legal protections.

The solution to bad speech is good speech. Never censorship.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Italy is at 80% and they still see the need to ban unvaccinated people from places. New Zealand is planning to ban unvaccinated people form places after we reach 90% of over-12-year-olds. So even with a massive 80% vaccinated, the vaccine doesn't stop the spread. Maybe it would at 90%? 95%? Who knows. In New Zealand, the unvaccinated are largely the indigenous Maori, not stereotypical anti-vaxxers.

The media really wants to paint the average antivaxxer as white rednecks, when white people are among the most heavily vaccinated demographics.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Youtube Alternatives : Centralized : Dailymotion, Bitchute, Rumble, DTube, Vimeo, Vidlii, DLive, Triller, Gab TV Decentralized : Odysee(LBRY), Peertube

Also, spin up a VPS - even if it has to be on a infra provider also used by Parler or whatever. The key insight IMO is that this isn't about free speech it's about maximizing your reach by any means necessary. YouTube is a good place for that, but failing that, so is getting written about at Fox News. Rumble, et al... not so much.
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