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Post by hliyan »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #298

As someone who is on record saying this wouldn't be possible, I'm pretty amazed (I believe the technical term is gobsmacked) :-). That said, the ability to manage this with essentially "shadow mode" is somewhat less impressive than having the kinematics "built in" so to speak. As I understand it (and correct me if you have more recent data!) the robots are programmed by using a person wearing an articulated sensor ne…

Hope you're picking up the terms from Real Steel (2011). I think BD now has the technology to build a device similar to the ones depicted in that movie, if they wanted to.

Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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Post by at_a_remove »

Ajedi32 wrote: post #327
colordrops wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about 30 years? 50? 100? Is that too far out to worry about?

In my view the biggest issue with the whole "robots unite to violently overthrow humanity" trope isn't its technological infeasibility (though it _is_ technologically infeasible for the forseeable future), but rather the fact that it presupposes an AI that is essentially human; with all the same emotions, goals, and vices that a human would have. There's no reason to think a hypothetical future AGI would care in the…

I can think of two reasons why a hypothetical future AGI would care in the slightest about its own survival.

The first reason is that someone programs it to, just as a general "might as well throw in Asimov's Third Law" impulse.

The second reason would be in the case that someone creates a general AGI, it is asked to do something, and it carelessly destroys itself in accomplishing that task. "Drats," say the programmers, "we'll have to get a copy from backup. In the meantime, let's make sure it doesn't destroy itself next time."

Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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Post by interestica »

hyundai (Korea) bought the controlling stake for $1b+ a week or so ago. How long until this is incorporated into a kpop performance? What year in the '20s will see a popular group made up in part/whole of dancing robots?

Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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Post by interestica »

sxp wrote: post #4

If I didn't know who Boston Dynamics was, I would have said that this is just CGI. The animations look so fake. I think the issue is that they're aggressively smoothing the motion since mechanical systems don't have the ability to accelerate & jerk as fast as biological systems. Cheap mocap animation has the same problem because the frame rate of the capture system is too low. They interpolate between captured keyfra…

> aggressively smoothing the motion since mechanical systems don't have the ability to accelerate & jerk as fast as biological systems

I wondered if they covered the bots in a flowing dress if it would sell the illusion even more.

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Post by melenaboija »

I guess physics is crystal clear on how to calculate the energy, but is surprising to me these robots need a heavy backpack of batteries that need to be recharged pretty often to dance and we just need a bowl of oat meal and a piece of pizza to move the same weight and also process way more information

Re: Do You Love Me? [video]

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Post by xwdv »

melenaboija wrote: post #346

I guess physics is crystal clear on how to calculate the energy, but is surprising to me these robots need a heavy backpack of batteries that need to be recharged pretty often to dance and we just need a bowl of oat meal and a piece of pizza to move the same weight and also process way more information

It gives me hope that there must still be some breakthrough in energy density waiting to be discovered that will eventually allow robots and devices the same energy efficiency as humans.

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Post by drzaiusapelord »

joe_the_user wrote: post #104
bozzcl wrote: post #87

I love how there were people in the upper floor just walking by without even looking. "Oh, the robots are dancing again." In between the advances in "holographic" displays (not quite as sci-fi as we would want, but they are progressing), commercial space flight, cybernetic prosthetics, CRISPR and this... we are living in the future. It's amazing. It makes me a little sad more people are not aware of the ridiculously…

My sister used live next to the Boston Dynamics facility in Waltham. She'd walk her on the nearby river path and generally disliked the way Boston Dynamics would periodically take over the path and keep her from using. Part of the reason the robots evoke little excitement is because after a short look, you can realize they're just large puppets. We've had dancing puppets like Walt Disney's Small World. The reason Bos…

Great comment! So many, at least from my reckoning online, seem to assume complex AI is just a given and we'll have it soon enough, but the reality is that these things are mostly puppets and the kinds of brains you need to come up with a clever song and dance on your own as opposed to having one carefully programmed into you is night and day. I think there's a reason we don't have mini, less capable, robots like these in our homes. We have the bodies, sorta, but we just don't have the brains.

Dancing just isn't impressive and like you say, seems a lot like a higher tech version of Disneyworld. What I want to see is one of these, on its own accord, run into a burning building and save a child. Choreography just isn't impressive outside of the 'wow' factor. Without advanced AI brains, these bodies are almost useless shells and I imagine Google getting out of this space may have had something to do with that.

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Post by wheresmycraisin »

cromwellian wrote: post #282

Lots of commments on military applications, but bipedal robots are inferior to wheel vehicles, planes, and aerial drones, in terms of speed and maneuverability. Everyone's so afraid of Terminators hunting them down, when in reality, mostly invisible , and mostly silent, Predator drones from a mile away that will kill you with precisely targeted missiles should be your real fear. Or commercial quad-copters carrying an…

IIRC the humanoid Terminators in the movie are infiltrator units. Skynet will definitely have more conventional aircrafts and wheeled vehicles to hunt us down.
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