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Peloton's competitor product is Peloton Digital which is £12.99/mo, doesn't require the bike or treadmill and includes all kinds of workout routines.

But if you want to buy a digital fitness program, why should you ever choose Peloton's? Especially when you probably already have an iPhone, an Apple Watch, and airpods.

I think this is really more of a people business than an ecosystem/technology one. Obviously there are benefits to being Apple, they might well give themselves some private APIs so they have features nobody else does, I'm sure they'll use Activity Awards exclusive to Fitness+. But ultimately Peloton has a massive backlog of great classes by great instructors, and a continuous stream of the same. Apple have to replicate that to play in this space, and if they don't then it won't matter how clever they are tech-wise or how much their ecosystem makes it appealing.

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> Can't you see where they're going with this? Can you see the slippery slope you're invoking? Apple owns the operating system you use. That is where it stops in your example. They don't force ownership of software, the network stack, the gym you visit (lol), where you work, etc. Where's your head at, other than "ApPlE BaD"?

Right, but it is almost impossible for anyone else to compete in the ecosystem. If another major fitness brand wants to do the same the probably cannot because: - The tight integration is not possible, only Apple can build these kind of Apple Watch experiences. - They would need to pay Apple 30%, maybe making this not profitable especially against Apple's own offering that can have internal pricing where the 30% neve…

Probably not as tight as their integration, but we have a (far less polished, but effectively made by one person) workout app with Watch and Music integration. On Watch, iPhone, iPad and Apple TV. One-time cost though as opposed to their monthly subscription.

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I would prefer the market be more diverse. I spend a fair amount of time on fitness and haven't found any tracking app that floats my boat -- Apple's being especially awful from a UX perspective in my opinion -- and I'd really like to think that if I come up with a better idea, I won't have to subsidize Tim Cook's latest vertical takeover with 30% of my indie revenue, or worse: my customers' indie revenue. At the ris…

Your personal trainer doesn't have to pay a 30% cut to Apple.

How much of a cut do they give to the gym?

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I don’t think this would affect personal, live fitness instructors. Although it looks the same on the surface, the value proposition is very different (as is the cost). You don’t make the same kind of human connection when the communication is one-way. Put it this way: if internet streaming was going to kill off fitness instructors, it would have happened already. Apple isn’t doing something new here, they’re just pu…

I wouldn't jump to those conclusions so quickly. I'm paying my local fitness instructor $25/mo for access to a private facebook group where she streams live classes via Facebook Live every day. The communication is one-way (you can post comments in chat, but the instructor can't see you). Nothing is in person. This directly competes with my local fitness instructor who has transitioned 100% to live stream. Fitness+ i…

What's the point of having a local fitness instructor if it's all streaming online? Doesn't that open the worldwide fitness instructor market (except language), so you can just pick the best worldwide?

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I wouldn't jump to those conclusions so quickly. I'm paying my local fitness instructor $25/mo for access to a private facebook group where she streams live classes via Facebook Live every day. The communication is one-way (you can post comments in chat, but the instructor can't see you). Nothing is in person. This directly competes with my local fitness instructor who has transitioned 100% to live stream. Fitness+ i…

What's the point of having a local fitness instructor if it's all streaming online? Doesn't that open the worldwide fitness instructor market (except language), so you can just pick the best worldwide ?

> What's the point of having a local fitness instructor if it's all streaming online?

Human connection.

The first 5 minutes of the class are personally my favorite - the instructor is a hilariously funny person and a great community builder.

I’ve taken a lot of fitness classes with many different instructors. From my experience, people rarely stick with an instructor (or workout program) because of the quality of the actual workout... they stick with it only if they enjoy spending an hour of their day with the instructor on a personal / social level. Most people would choose a mediocre workout with an engaging instructor over an amazing workout with a monotone boring instructor.

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How does it matter?

Because they literally have an open source operating system that is being used by a multitude of phone manufacturers, kiosks, home security systems, developers, hobbyists, security experts, Amazon Kindle, etc without any licensing fees which can be audited by anyone.

This is simply false.

There is not a multitude of phone manufacturers using an open source operating system.

The Android that phone manufacturers use is largely closed source, and only part of it is open source.

This has been irrefutably documented elsewhere in this thread.

This thread is about phones.

The fact that you can use the open source components of Android to build a home security system, but not a phone, just proves the point, that Android as a phone operating system, as most people consider it to be, is not open source.

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Why would it?

Because that is all the Google apps are really, are one iteration of a group of apps for functionality. You can always use F-Droid and install great open source alternatives.

The fact that you can install a different operating system on some android phones doesn’t mean that the Android that phone manufacturers actually use is open source.

Indeed the fact that you have to install a different operating system that isn’t even called “Android” proves that Android as people know it is not open source.

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Was your girlfriend of age? To the best of my knowledge the only thing Microsoft searches for and actions in user uploaded files is content that hits against PhotoDNA. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/photodna

From what I understand, PhotoDNA is used to recognize _known_ images of child exploitation. It will never recognize any pictures a user takes themselves, even if they show child exploitation, unless that photo’s hash makes it into Microsoft’s database.

We don't know the parent posters exact relationship status. It could have been an online catfish and the person on the other end sent photos of a minor they found online.
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