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Does anyone actually think this is a profitable market? Electric scooters are expensive, repair and charging is expensive. It’s a seasonal business. Vandalism/abuse is fairly common. In terms of any environmental benefit, I highly suspect more gasoline is being consumed to collect and distribute scooters than the offset of a few last mile transports. I suspect the cost to the consumer would have to double for it to m…

I think it’s a great business. They are not expensive. There are no employees except for depot repair and customer service call center. Repair can be handled by driving with a van after dark and collecting all sick units. Easy for a small team. It can be a Chrysler Hybrid minivan if you want to be environmentally conscious. Fuel consumption is a non-factor if done overnight without traffic. Solar can charge the batteries, but so can random people, which is how it is done.

They are not cheap to ride. Riders are paying $20/hr. I paid a few times and found it convenient compared to catching an Uber. Unit cost is less than $1000. You are looking at a month of use before the thing becomes profitable. At their volume, the cost is likely far less.

Re: Lime shuts in 12 markets, lays off around 100

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to be bullish on ebikes for commuting, until I started buying secondhand ones barely a few months old on craigslist at steep discounts for my own family. In every case, the owner had a change of heart and switched to a scooter. Why? Because the ebike is huge and heavy, needs dedicated locking, parking etc. Often there isn't room for it on the bus/train. They all found the scooter way better for last mile style…

For me the solution here is a folding e-bike, of which there are many.

Ironically the ones I purchased are all folding models. In some ways the folding models are the worst weight wise, the extra hardware needed to strengthen the frame makes them incredibly heavy. I own a very nice Tern Vektron, one of the higher end folding electric bikes, and I've folded it once, it's just way to heavy for folding and carrying to be practical. I'd sooner walk than try and move it around a busy train, for example. The fold is really only useful for storage at home.
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