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Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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To find the answer, I would ask, Why are there conferences for other technologies? What are they for? And I think the answer is probably 1) get useful news about recent and upcoming changes and 2) to socialize. I'm going to guess--possibly just projecting--that most C developers are older and not terribly interested in meeting new "C friends" or jumping into some hot, new "C startup". That leaves #1. Web/AI-ML/cloud/…

I think there's a third one: To generate hype. C is already established - it's been around long enough that it doesn't need advertising.

Yet many still haven't learned to use lint like tooling, initially developed in 1979.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Sorry about that then. Surely I know that, but there is this image being sold that C is the only option, when those companies that I have listed are in business for at least 20 years now. I also know there are a large amount of people in the trade that have zero regard for writing secure C code, despite the availability of tooling to help in such regard. Which is getting worse now that those systems are being plugged…

Sure, I've seen embedded work done with anything from assembly to Lisp. But it's all marginal, trying to get into embedded development without learning C would be very career limiting. For example, not sure how many new projects are started in 2018 with Pascal on PIC but suspect not a lot. Perhaps the most popular non-C development platform these days is Arduino on Atmel 8 bit chips, but it is still really a dumbed d…

Actually Arduino is one way I hope that C++ gets more embedded love.

Either that, or certification requirements like AUTOSAR that have switched to C++14.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Because C is simple and not very interesting without an associated topic? I’m also not sure what you’d sell to C programmers. But maybe there should be one - with some good marketing it could do quite well I suspect.

C seems simple.

http://blog.llvm.org/2011/05/what-every-c-programmer-should-...

http://blog.llvm.org/2011/05/what-every-c-programmer-should-...

http://blog.llvm.org/2011/05/what-every-c-programmer-should-...

What about advocating best practices to write proper code to those still using C89 + compiler extensions without any kind of analyzers?

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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Go is written in Go, which is why you need it installed in the first place before you can run the go compiler.

Except for versions before 1.5, which were written in C.

Spoiler: I hear the first C compilers were probably not written in C, until they were.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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and off a bridge? sounds like a JS conference

I can't resist. C conference: Address is past the end of the street. C++ conference: Reading the address requires working out an elaborate series of compile-time templates that finally resolves to the actual address. You go there to find that it's past the end of the street. JS conference: The address is "the last place we held it". You attempt to figure out what that means, but you didn't attend last year. After som…

The php conference was free, but held in that part of town that made you lose all dignity and sense of pride.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To find the answer, I would ask, Why are there conferences for other technologies? What are they for? And I think the answer is probably 1) get useful news about recent and upcoming changes and 2) to socialize. I'm going to guess--possibly just projecting--that most C developers are older and not terribly interested in meeting new "C friends" or jumping into some hot, new "C startup". That leaves #1. Web/AI-ML/cloud/…

> It’s almost like news about algebra There are plenty of algebra conferences, though. I’ve been to several. :-) I agree with your general point, but algebra isn’t quite as slow-moving as you seem to believe.

Perhaps they were thinking of the ordinary equation solving that most people know as algebra, rather than the abstract algebra (group theory etc.) covered in university mathematics courses.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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What on earth are you talking about? Assembly. Java. Ruby. Python. The list goes on. Could you explain your rationale behind this statement?

Point me to a compiler or interpreter, any of them, that isn't either written in C or written in something that was written in C. And of course, whatever you play with, it's running on an operating system written in C. If programming is turtles all the way down, C is the bottom turtle, standing on the solid ground of Von Neumann architecture. The point is, C is utterly pervasive. Everything that we think is different…

The very first C compiler wasn't written in C though.

Re: Why Aren't There C Conferences?

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I think there's a third one: To generate hype. C is already established - it's been around long enough that it doesn't need advertising.

Yet many still haven't learned to use lint like tooling, initially developed in 1979.

Sounds like a good topic for a conference talk ;)
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