Is Rails still relevant in 2018? • Hacker News Board

Re: Is Rails still relevant in 2018?

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Post by bsenftner » Mon, Sep 03, 2018, 2:32 AM UTC

mwcampbell wrote: post #231

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I write integrated servers with the web server, the database server, a video server, and a facial recognition application all bundled together in C++. The application screams: try 1/16th the memory footprint of a traditional multi-server Internet application, it is 4000% faster, and can run on a $100 Intel Compute Stick. Try this in any other language...

What C++ web server library/framework do you use? Or did you roll your own? For the database, are you using SQLite or something else?

Restbed is the C++ framework, and yes, we use SQlite.

Re: Is Rails still relevant in 2018?

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Post by bsenftner » Tue, Sep 04, 2018, 2:13 PM UTC

gm-conspiracy wrote: post #324

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I write integrated servers with the web server, the database server, a video server, and a facial recognition application all bundled together in C++. The application screams: try 1/16th the memory footprint of a traditional multi-server Internet application, it is 4000% faster, and can run on a $100 Intel Compute Stick. Try this in any other language...

Is this for an art installation or does it have a more business-oriented purpose?

Government contracts; software is used by covert agencies.

Re: Is Rails still relevant in 2018?

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Post by shcallaway » Fri, Sep 07, 2018, 12:18 AM UTC

beaconstudios wrote: post #130

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> These days if your chosen language doesn't have things like strong typing, interfaces, good debugging tools, a good compiler, etc, then you should definitely be asking yourself if it's the right tool for the job. All of these things existed long before Ruby on Rails gained in popularity. Unless the popularity of Rails, Python, PHP, and Javascript was all just collective insanity, dynamic languages do offer benefits…

> Unless the popularity of Rails, Python, PHP, and Javascript was all just collective insanity, dynamic languages do offer benefits in some circumstances over languages with stronger type guarantees. with strongly typed languages it's harder to perform exploratory coding. This drives a kind of backpressure on the design stage of development where it becomes more prudent to design your classes and interfaces before yo…

I love the idea that typed languages create backpressure. I have very little confidence in peoples' ability to create well-designed (in software architecture terms) projects.

Re: Is Rails still relevant in 2018?

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Post by bishala » Fri, Sep 07, 2018, 6:18 PM UTC

Rails is still very relevant in 2018. The meme templates used are from 2011 though.

Re: Is Rails still relevant in 2018?

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Post by RhodesianHunter » Wed, Sep 12, 2018, 1:56 AM UTC

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> by writing your own function just as jQuery did Sure, and we could all just design our own chips, hand code our own binary to create our custom programming language we use for everything... But humans have a neat ability to benefit from other humans' work.

An attempt to compare writing JavaScript to designing our own chips is a typical response I see from certain individuals online all the time. No knowledgeable person would ever do such a thing but I see it on reddit, and other amateur forums, all the time.

You're making a large and incorrect assumption.

But don't worry, I see this on Reddit and other amateur forums all the time.

Re: Is Rails still relevant in 2018?

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Post by atomic-hedge » Fri, Sep 14, 2018, 9:54 PM UTC

bsenftner wrote: post #339

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Thanks for the suggestions! I hadn't thought about places like Wolfram Research or MathWorks. I'll keep my eye on those. I'm working on picking up more C++ since that seems to be what everything I'm interested in is using.

Keep in mind these are "conservative developers" - they work in C/C++ - meaning a preference towards C styled C++, a preference towards maintainability, and a preference away from the latest features of C++. That is being a developer, yet in a tech shop. There are lucrative alternatives too: When one looks outside the traditional technology industries, there are a huge number of technology jobs as the tech person in…

Thanks for the info. I'm kind of burned out on the shiny new things, so C and maintainability sound like a breath of fresh air. I think reading an OS paper from ~1983 that described what is effectively Kubernetes (with working prototype written in ML) really drove home how little the fundamentals of our industry change.

The way I describe my career goals now is: I want to work in a domain where quality and performance is the product.

I hadn't considered getting an MBA and using it in that way, that's something that I will take a hard look at. Thanks for the advice!