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Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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FYI, firefox is working on switching to rendering the entire page in opengl which should bring it's motion mark score up substantially. Details on that (and how to enable it in nightly at the bottom of each post) at https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com

They’d better switch to using metal because Apple deprecated OpenGL for MacOS.

That's Apple's problem, not Mozilla's.

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I just ran both of the speed test benchmarks [1][2] mentioned in the article, plus two other tests [3][4]. | Firefox | Safari | Chrome ----------------|----------------|-----------------|----------------- Speedometer 2.0 | 83.0 ±0.91 | 92.1 ±2.8 | 75.7 ±3.4 JetStream | 219.40 ±8.5563 | 294.79 ±11.138 | 201.81 ±15.171 Motion Mark | 203.71 ±5.41% | 525.77 ±6.56% | 388.85 ±4.79 ARES-6 | 54.06 ±0.95ms | 16.85 ±1.19ms | 2…

FWIW, I keep coming back to Opera which feels the snappiest on the latest MBP 13". Any real-world numbers?

I've also switched to Opera a couple of months ago. I'm running Opera touch on android too. I've found Opera on desktop (Linux) to be faster than Firefox and Chrome and the only functionality I'm missing is "to move the tabs to left and right". Even the chromecast works on Opera, which is fantastic. I've been using the Flow functionality ever since I've started using Opera, and I think that is the second reason (well, after it being fast) I'm going to stick with Opera.

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> The web has reached a new low Strongly disagree. The web is just the medium, the places people visit might have reached a new low, but the platform is only getting better. Just at the state of cross browser in 2015 vs 2018!

yeah but.... actually, crap you're right. tech is better than ever. pity that it's being wasted on today's trivialities.

Maybe in general but Wikipedia and kiva exist

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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I have always used Firefox, ever since they implemented tabbed browsing (an incredible improvement, for those who don't remember the time before that).

However, in recent times I have had to switch more and more apps to Chrome because the UI breaks in Firefox: intercom.io, trello.com, notion.so.

Probably no fault of Firefox, but if a UI is broken there is no choice but to migrate.

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I just ran both of the speed test benchmarks [1][2] mentioned in the article, plus two other tests [3][4]. | Firefox | Safari | Chrome ----------------|----------------|-----------------|----------------- Speedometer 2.0 | 83.0 ±0.91 | 92.1 ±2.8 | 75.7 ±3.4 JetStream | 219.40 ±8.5563 | 294.79 ±11.138 | 201.81 ±15.171 Motion Mark | 203.71 ±5.41% | 525.77 ±6.56% | 388.85 ±4.79 ARES-6 | 54.06 ±0.95ms | 16.85 ±1.19ms | 2…

FWIW the major factor driving user experience is content blocking. It is good to know the subtle diffrences, but any browser that ships with content blocking enabled by defult smashes the browser with the fastest rendering speed when it comes to actual browsing. Moz://a could easily ship the best browser on the market if they actually cared about the users, instead of taking Google money and pretending to be a compet…

If they stopped taking the Google money it would be much harder to pay developers. I think this would be worse overall for the users, and I bet Mozilla thinks the same.

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Once Vivaldi has a Sync feature like FF and Chrome do, I am going to switch...

Vivaldi does have a sync feature! But I don't know if you're aware of that already, and FF/Chrome sync have something special in their Sync that Vivaldi doesn't.

Was it added recently?

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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I have always used Firefox, ever since they implemented tabbed browsing (an incredible improvement, for those who don't remember the time before that). However, in recent times I have had to switch more and more apps to Chrome because the UI breaks in Firefox: intercom.io, trello.com, notion.so. Probably no fault of Firefox, but if a UI is broken there is no choice but to migrate.

> if a UI is broken there is no choice but to migrate.

you also have the choice of not using the broken website

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Ironically, the thing that drove me to Firefox was the excellent Account Containers system that I found necessary to manage being logged into multiple Google Apps accounts simultaneously (I have five ). Each tab owns one account — that way, Google Drive files from my work don't randomly refuse to open because I'm also logged into my personal account. (Chrome has no solution for containing accounts across tabs, last I…

Google's account management is infuriating! First, it almost never remembers what account you used with what service. If I do some Google Cloud stuff under my work account, I don't want Google Maps using my work account, or vice versa. The list of accounts in the upper right corner, and what's signed in/out, seems completely random and broken. The second problem is that Google's various apps are wildly inconsistent i…

I just setup multiple profiles in chrome which is one thing it seems to do better than FF imo. You can select a profile in the top right corner. Everything about them is separate. cookies, history, extensions , theme so I give each one a different theme make it clear what profile I'm using.

in FF afaict you can only use one at a time and you have to choose at launch

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It doesn't have built-in websocket support so it can F off. Build better dev tools and feel bad. Even the plugin that used to be usable isn't supported on the new FF.

Also my yubikey doesn't work with Firefox i.e. to use yubikey as 2nd factor during gmail login
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