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Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Well, I did not intent to vote that post, but now I upvoted it just to undo your mistake.

He agreed with him so I just upvoted his post to give him back the upvote he meant.

Replying to a comment removes your vote on it, so you've given an extra upvote :)

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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post #335

Free market ideologues would have you believe that companies have only incentives to improve their products and services, giving customers what they want, so the company can earn more. Competition will ensure this happens, right? Not in this case. Here we have a company that has incentives to cripple its product and services, taking away from many customers features they clearly use and want, and giving them somethin…

You forget, Facebook's customers are not its users; they are assets whose access they are selling to their actual customers, ad agencies and marketers. Advertising made up nearly 97% of Facebook's revenue in Q1 2016[0]. Messenger and messaging is something Facebook has not previously monetized, and I would presume this is part of Facebook's plan to monetize messenger by releasing ads on it in Q2 2016[1]. This all makes perfect sense if messaging in the Facebook app is used by few enough of its users that the cost of maintaining and monetizing it would be greater than ad revenue it could generate, which seems reasonable to me. So, in fact, they are only improving their products and services for their paying customers, advertisers. I'm rather confidant that Facebook would not be doing this if its users were its paying customers. [0] http://investor.fb.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=967167 [1] http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/18/facebook-messenger-ads/

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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post #279

So much complaining. The web app version is crap, of course they want to move people over to the app. Why waste resources on an inferior web version when they can focus their attention on the very successful mobile app. Its just good business sense and seeing that 99.9999999999% of Facebook users already have Messenger installed, its a non issue.

> Why waste resources on an inferior web version when they can focus their attention on the very successful mobile app. Perhaps because the web version is not limited to the proprietary runtime of a single operating system.

I would think most phones support a messenger app. Except if you have a really old or bare phone, but then it might not even support internet?

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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This is kind of convenient; it gives me one more excuse not to use facebook. A few days ago I got the usual notification email that somebody had sent me a message on FB. Clicking is a low barrier so I clicked, curiously. Then I instead got the "No, now you have to install Messenger app" screen. That was enough of a barrier that I said "oh forget it, who cares, anybody who knows me would know better than to send me an…

I don't use Facebook at all, though I have an account. Messenger is perfect for me because I only care about the [very rare] chances that someone sends me a message on Facebook. These have always been friends or family that I haven't talked to in a while, actually! And they don't always have my phone or email address...

hopefully you have control over the data Messenger (and every other app) with something like Xprivacy.

There's a cost to using the free Messenger service [1]. They also want to make it into WeChat.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Honestly... That's the only part of FB I use. For a while now I've had only the Messenger app installed and just a FB shortcut to the webpage on my iPhone.

I only check FB about once a week and use Messenger daily with friends that live or travel internationally.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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post #241

This is hostile as fuck. Just clicking on the Messages icon on the mobile website launches Google Play Store.

I don't get why launching play store from browser is even possible. Did anyone really think that would be used for a good purpose, instead of just rampantly abused?

yes, to add a link to an app from a webpage.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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post #20

I dislike this change. I specifically only access Facebook on my phone via the web app because (1) it saves significant battery and (2) I absolutely do not want the popup bubbles during the work day from church and other social groups I am connected to on Facebook. Ultimately, all this means is that I will stop accessing Facebook Messenger on my phone all together. I will communicate with the people who matter most o…

This. I installed the FB app a loooong time ago and was perfectly happy with occasionally checking the mobile website.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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I have always found it surprising that someone may honestly think that upvoting and downvoting can be used to express agreement or disagreement. If you strongly agree or disagree, just reply with a post of your own; up/downvoting is there so you could express your opinion on the quality of the post rather than whether you think that what it is saying is true or false.

Paul Graham, who started HN, is one of those people: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=117171 . Generally, HN strongly discourages "me too" or "i agree" type comments. We prefer to just upvote comments in order to keep discussion threads interesting and on-topic.

Isn't that the recipe for an echo chamber?

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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The Facebook community is, by and large, a positive for the world.

The Facebook platform is one giant, dark pattern.

Here's hoping the community wins.

Why we need to continue fostering alternatives. Diversity and competition, to keep things a little more honest.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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post #11

So rather than fixing the problems that result in users messaging via the mobile web app instead of the messenger app, they're just going to "solve" the problem by forcing users to use the messenger app? This is why Facebook as a company doesn't have high levels of consumer trust. This will bite them in the future. Once you lose that level of trust it is extremely difficult to gain back.

Is there any source to confirm "Facebook as a company doesn't have high levels of consumer trust"? I even find hard to understand what consumer trust means in a precise way.
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