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Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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The download worked for me, but the zip archive was corrupted, so I didn't even get a chance to try it out on linux (ubuntu 12.04)

Yup can confirm, doesn't seem to work on Ubuntu

works for me on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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tldr; light weight Visual Studio for OSX/Windows/Linux with support for dozens of languages, intellisense (autocomplete), refactoring, debugging (yes, real debugging), git integration and it is free

not all langs have autocomplete yet, but I hope it will be soon.

special request for Rust autocompletion, please!

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Then don't use it until it is stable. This is a preview release

What, you mean you don't use a bunch of preview products to work on your top-secret company code?

Somewhere at MS: "I told you this scheme would work! We finally got their product name. Send word to our team to begin immediately." rubbing hands together

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Ballmer was good at sales but horrible at running a company. He was perfect before the internet came to be and before the rise of mobile devices. Ballmer, is in fact, what sunk Microsoft for a better part of a decade or more. Nadella is doing MS good. For one, he understands market dynamics better than Ballmer did and is willing to gamble. As a C# developer of 10 years, this is the first time Microsoft actually "spic…

> Open source is not available to commercial companies. The way the license is written, if you use any open-source software, you have to make the rest of your software open source. If the government wants to put something in the public domain, it should. Linux is not in the public domain. Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches. That's the way that the license…

Is he wrong about the GPL? It actually does what he is talking about by design. Every company which uses GPL code is very careful about how they do so. A lot won't touch GPLv3 because of the newer restrictions. AGPL as well.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

By design, Nadella is getting credit by design for 'overnight changes' many years in the making. Windows 10 reflects the strategic decisions embodied in Vista. Ballmer owned enough stock that along with Gates' backing Microsoft could produce a largely incompatible new version of the Windows OS and Wall Street could like it or lump it. Gates and Ballmer have been divesting Microsoft shares and the new company is behol…

> Windows 10 reflects the strategic decisions embodied in Vista

Hope you mean "embodied in Windows 8". I still remember the day I replaced my Vista PC with one running Windows 7, and wondering why the OS was booting so fast. I doubt "Vista" was strategic in any way, more incompetent management, but would agree "Windows 8" had strategic considerations behind it.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Ever since Nadella took over at Microsoft, such news items are becoming more and more frequent. Ten years ago, my first reaction at such a headline would have been to check my calendar if it's April 1st. Microsoft has come a long way from the company that everybody loved to hate. IMHO, they still have a long way ahead of them, but it's nice to see they seem to be serious about it. With Ballmer at the helm, I had the…

By design, Nadella is getting credit by design for 'overnight changes' many years in the making. Windows 10 reflects the strategic decisions embodied in Vista. Ballmer owned enough stock that along with Gates' backing Microsoft could produce a largely incompatible new version of the Windows OS and Wall Street could like it or lump it. Gates and Ballmer have been divesting Microsoft shares and the new company is behol…

Indeed, Nadella is an opensource guy that had the chance to grow during Ballmer. While Microsoft (during Ballmer) had a slow change (going more opensource) from the bottom-to-top, there has been a faster change now from top-to-bottom. I remember Scott Hanselman, Scott Guthrie and Phil Haack (now at Github) during Ballmer as opensource contributors.

Ballmer allowed opensource during his leadership, but employees would be more "targetted" when it's not the right direction and it hasn't has "intermediate"/"fast" results... It's a much slower progress.

I believe Nadella has a lot of thanks for the change that Microsoft made before he stepped up and "received" the fame. There was a short release afterwards of his stepup with a Office version for iOS and Android, you just don't do that within the month.

Some things he did within the first 12 months:

- Bought Nokia ( they already worked very together closely, this was probably been going on for years )

- Office for iOS and Android ( was created during Ballmer, but probably got approval during Nadella)

- Opensource .Net ( opensource started with Asp.Net MVC 2, which wasn't an all-in though, i think of it as a "test" internally)

- Cloudobile - connecting mobile with the cloud ;) ( this is definatly more Nadella's style, coming from Azure)

But it isn't all "that good", a lot of people have been layed off ( approx. 18.000 ). While Ballmer's approach is very "profitable" and "evil", i do believe that Nadella's approach is more in the line of "more penetration", "cheaper prices" ( free version of Office eg.), being more open... It does come at a cost ( i hope no one blames me for mentioning this ). I do suppose those 18.000 people where mostly freelancers, but i'm not sure.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Download works from here.

The download worked for me, but the zip archive was corrupted, so I didn't even get a chance to try it out on linux (ubuntu 12.04)

Mine was corrupted but I fixed it with the following command: "zip -FF VSCode-linux-x64 --out vscode2". I'm on ubuntu 14.04.

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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Do you have anything to back that up? Personally, I feel developing for Apple platforms has never been better. Companies are still, for the most part, launching on iOS first and I don't know who the developers you're talking about are, but there are a hell of a lot of great developers still in the platform: Panic, OmniGroup, etc. As for your comment on the 30% fee, that's industry standard and few serious developers…

Panic and OmniGroup were big 10 years ago. The fact that nobody has appeared on the scene, innovated and become a name that you or I can quote is quite telling. Where is the new blood? I personally know many long-time Mac developers who have sold their products to others to maintain, or have quietly slipped away and let sales slide. The 30% fee is not an industry standard that was debated and researched and rationali…

Pixelmator team ?

Re: Microsoft Launches Visual Studio Code, a Free Cross-Platform Code Editor

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> Developers* are sick of proprietary stacks And Microsoft will rescue them... Yeah, right...

Is there any reason not to use .NET now that it has been open-sourced? What's wrong with C# and F#?

embrace, extend, extinguish
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