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Re: Reddit

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Post by GFK_of_xmaspast » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 12:59 AM UTC

ebfe wrote: post #94

kyro wrote: post #9

Exciting news. One thing I sincerely hope reddit will do with the new injection is to increase the level of quality of content and discussion across the board. Often the advice given is "you've got to find the smaller subreddits" and while that's true, I think having the first few layers filled with terrible content and hive-minded, often racist/sexist discussion is incredibly detrimental to both the site's image and…

>I think having the first few layers filled with terrible content and hive-minded, often racist/sexist discussion. Relative to what? Are YouTube and Yahoo bastions of intellectualism and racial tolerance? If you really think that Reddit's issue is that the quality of discussion is too low, you need to take another look at any other site on the internet.

If the best you can say about your site is that it's not as bad as youtube comments you've got problems.

Re: Reddit

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 1:05 AM UTC

Semaphor wrote: post #219

fourstar wrote: post #205

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Mods don't decide to make a subreddit a default, admins do.

That's not true, mods can opt out of becoming a default and at least in some cases the admins talk to the mods first anyway. edit: http://i.imgur.com/IbiMa8g.png

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Re: Reddit

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Post by fphhotchips » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 1:09 AM UTC

Balgair wrote: post #293

alexis wrote: post #88

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I got excited when I saw that feature. It's a shame it's riding the meme of another platform, but people instantly "get it," at least. The core problem is people don't even understand how the site works (subscribe to communities you like). That's something the team is still working on improving in a non-annoying way. Mobile is going to be a big part of it, I think.

Since I cannot Pm you here: 1) Thanks a ton for the site, I have enjoyed many hours on it and find that it has made my world better. 2)As with any growth, things will fall to the human norm. It's fine, but thank you for fighting the good fight, I know it's not said much, but thank you. 3)Best on the new round of funding, yall worked hard and you deserve it. 4)I came to HN to escape reddit, actually. Yes, I'm in a ton…

Stack Overflow isn't much better.

"What should I use to do this?" - That question isn't inline with our format

"How do I do this?" - This question is a duplicate of

"How do I do this exact thing with this version of this software?" - No response, because no one on SO uses that software with that version, which you would have known if you could have asked the "What should I use" question.

Don't get me wrong, I love stack exchange/overflow, but it can be quite frustrating.

Re: Reddit

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Post by meowface » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 1:24 AM UTC

kvl7 wrote: post #303

sujosh wrote: post #282

I enjoy Sam's writing but I am wondering why is he doing this ? Of course, its his money and he has 100 % right to do with it whatever he wants but still -- 1. Reddit is site which promotes hatred. Radical men hatred is quite common to find out. 2. Almost all mods are SJWs. It is almost impossible to find or carry out rational discussion on reddit. This hatred is so strong that many FEMINAZIs recommend getting rid of…

I completely agree with your points, and just created this account to post something similar until I saw your post. Reddit is indeed a shithole, filled with an extremely radical left-wing hive mind that is completely devoid of critical thinking skills.

I don't completely agree.

I support Gamergate and do not like SJWs or their movement, but Reddit is not run by or even heavily influenced by SJWs for the most part. The ruthless shadowbanning of people discussing Gamergate was mostly due to very poor research and reasoning by the admins, and the misinformed belief that some subreddits were being raided by 4chan.

SJWs are still mostly a fringe group. In fact, reddit actually fired one of its admins a few months ago for going full-SJW and being clearly very biased towards /r/SRS.

Now, some mods in some of the big subreddits lean a little more left or right politically. The userbase in general is not "extreme left" though, much more center left. Search reddit for IA's and thunderf00t's latest videos and you'll see serious support and upvotes in almost all subreddits.

No offense, but this conspiracy theory mongering just makes this whole thing even harder to debate.

Re: Reddit

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Post by derefr » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 1:34 AM UTC

ebfe wrote: post #216

zethraeus wrote: post #206

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Not identifying as a feminist or not being a feminist? You can identify however you want, but if you're truly not sexist, you're a feminist as far as I can tell.

The word "feminist" is more commonly understood to mean a supporter of the modern women's advocacy movement, rather than anyone who believes in equality of the sexes. Imagine a Republican telling you that "Republican" is defined as someone who supports natural human rights, and therefore anyone who truly supports natural human rights is a Republican. The feminist definition of "feminism" is inaccurate for the same re…

I think a closer analogy would be a Republican telling you that "Republican" is defined as someone who supports small government—and therefore libertarians are Republican (and most Republicans are, in fact, not Republican.)

There's an older version of this debate, regarding whether people who don't know or care about a given religion—but happen to follow all its tenets by coincidence—will get into the "good afterlife" of that religion. There are a lot of Christians who argue that to be "Christian" isn't a matter of faith, but rather a matter of acting the way Jesus would have one act. (And thus, in this model, there are atheist Christians.)

Re: Reddit

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Post by arfliw » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 1:46 AM UTC

convoces wrote: post #295

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #144

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>"I'm a male and why is this on my reddit page" and people that just barge in without reading rules to post things against our rules I think its asking way too much of someone who wants to join a casual site known for cat pics and meme jokes to read through the couple dozen default sub rules. There's no practical educational solution here. The volume of new users and the labor of understanding all these rules is huge…

>Worse, once a sub is made a default, its quantity goes up but its quality goes down. This seems to be almost universally true for any online community. As a userbase widens, content quality and even social dynamics become diluted to some extent towards a general population baseline. As a mod of /r/changemyview (153k subscribers), we have discussed opting out of becoming a default sub if we were approached by the red…

CMV: I just checked out your sub and subscribed, it looks interesting.

Re: Reddit

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Post by arfliw » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 1:48 AM UTC

Semaphor wrote: post #219

fourstar wrote: post #205

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Mods don't decide to make a subreddit a default, admins do.

That's not true, mods can opt out of becoming a default and at least in some cases the admins talk to the mods first anyway. edit: http://i.imgur.com/IbiMa8g.png

That they can opt out does not mean they can opt in.

Re: Reddit

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Post by arfliw » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 2:01 AM UTC

cookiecaper wrote: post #213

freehunter wrote: post #148

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Really? Unidan has his own page? If ever there was a reason for Wikipedia's speedy deletion... Is /u/shittywatercolour notable enough too? Holy shit, he is. Is Wikipedia trying to be knowyourmeme.com?

Wikipedia is pretty confused about what it wants to be. On one hand, "the sum of all human knowledge" includes a lot of minutiae that WP doesn't consider worthy of its servers. WP expresses that with notability guidelines. On the other hand, the extant notability guidelines means that a media blackout on you or your cause can keep you out of an encyclopedia that you really deserve to be in. WP is an extremely politic…

It's not that nobody cares, it's that all that you need to have a page is 'notability' and notability is defined as having media articles written about you. If I can get the New York Times and one other publication to write an article on the spider that lives outside my front door, I can create a Wikipedia article for that spider and nobody can take it down, per Wikipedia policy.

Re: Reddit

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 2:04 AM UTC

Afforess wrote: post #124

MysticFear wrote: post #100

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Upvotes should be weighed by a metric. Just as an example: New users should have less voting power and users with more karma should have a larger voting power with their upvote. Would decrease upvote/downvote bots, incentivizes good content (higher karma gives you slightly more voting power).

I disagree. This would simply skew the entire site towards content that nets high karma, and high karma users. I have seen no evidence that high karma users post content any better than a new user, and often times, they are worse - manipulative or egotistical.

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Re: Reddit

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Post by arfliw » Wed, Oct 01, 2014, 2:09 AM UTC

epmatsw wrote: post #106

foobarqux wrote: post #49

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Can you give some examples of good quality subreddits?

Most of the sports subreddits are pretty awesome. /r/cfb is my favorite, but /r/baseball, /r/hockey, and /r/fantasyfootball are all quite good as well. /r/nfl is probably the flagship sports subreddit, but it has been a little rough lately with the community and mods having some conflicts about the direction of the subreddit.

/r/nba is also awesome, along with literally every individual NFL and NBA team sub I have ever visited. Most are quick to ban opposing team fans for anything resembling trolling though. Tread lightly.