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Re: Reddit

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Post by kansface »

[deleted] wrote: post #107
silencio wrote: post #93

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I'm a default (twoxchromosomes) mod. I would love to see better moderation tools. Most of the shitty content I've had to deal with are from newer/multiple accounts, as well as the older accounts that are sick of the trolls. Our AutoModerator shadowban list and our ban list is so ridiculously long I can barely scroll it. It'd be amazing if we didn't have to rely on a bunch of other tools (toolbox, RES, AutoModerator)…

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No, the point of reddit is that communities of people moderate themselves under the rules they make up. Voting is not a substitute for moderation- see memes, offtopic comments, trolls, or the middlebrow dismissal that plagues HN. The later is always sitting at the top of page and in the positive; HN would be better if mods removed the comments or punished the accounts who make them.

Re: Reddit

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Post by rkalla »

MysticFear wrote: post #100
alexis wrote: post #74

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We've been hamstrung by a UI/UX that made a lot more sense when we only had a dozen active subreddits https://web.archive.org/web/20080410190800/http://reddit.com... reddit is a platform for communities like twitter is a platform for individuals. There are a half million communities now on reddit and our onboarding experience should do a better job exposing people to the communities they love (kinda like twitter does…

Upvotes should be weighed by a metric. Just as an example: New users should have less voting power and users with more karma should have a larger voting power with their upvote. Would decrease upvote/downvote bots, incentivizes good content (higher karma gives you slightly more voting power).

+1 to the slow and eventual consolidation of power into a few hands -- this sounds like an awesome idea, in theory, until you put it into practice.

This is exactly what happened at Digg and was a huge reason for it's downfall -- combating this with the disaster of a total rewrite and eventually collapse of the card castle.

Watching that unfold made me realize... no matter how smart you are, people that can make money (or clicks or impressions) from your system are going to be smarter.

Re: Reddit

#123

Post by minimaxir »

dang wrote: post #78
minimaxir wrote: post #7

I like Reddit. I recently obtained a data dump of every single submission and comment so I could perform interesting data analysis and may just determine what make a post on Reddit viral. The problem I have with Reddit is that I'm still unsure if it's a positive externality. There's a lot of good aspects of Reddit (discovery, community), but there's so much bad about Reddit that it's impossible to overlook it (abusiv…

which favors the actual quality of submissions How would you go about favoring quality?

One way to promote quality is to crack down on low-quality content (which is something that HN does and you've done a good job at doing. :P).

For example, many popular subreddits support the making of image macros/memes. Many of the serious subreddits have a) banned the use of image macros/memes and/or b) forced the sub to use text posts only, which forces the submitter to add discussion, and also reduces the incentive for karma-gaining since text posts generate no karma.

Another approach is to promote original content [OC], which gives an incentive to submitters to submit unique content instead of just being the first to post a submission to a new article on TechCrunch for internet points. The subreddit /r/dataisbeautiful has done this very well. (I really wish Reddit would remove its 10:1 rule, which was made to punish self-promoters and is a different issue entirely)

And of course, the standard machine learning techniques can be used to predict the probability of a post being good given, for example, a) keywords in title b) quality of domain's previous submissions c) quality of user's previous submissions, etc.

Re: Reddit

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Post by Afforess »

MysticFear wrote: post #100
alexis wrote: post #74

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We've been hamstrung by a UI/UX that made a lot more sense when we only had a dozen active subreddits https://web.archive.org/web/20080410190800/http://reddit.com... reddit is a platform for communities like twitter is a platform for individuals. There are a half million communities now on reddit and our onboarding experience should do a better job exposing people to the communities they love (kinda like twitter does…

Upvotes should be weighed by a metric. Just as an example: New users should have less voting power and users with more karma should have a larger voting power with their upvote. Would decrease upvote/downvote bots, incentivizes good content (higher karma gives you slightly more voting power).

I disagree. This would simply skew the entire site towards content that nets high karma, and high karma users. I have seen no evidence that high karma users post content any better than a new user, and often times, they are worse - manipulative or egotistical.

Re: Reddit

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Post by whyenot »

MysticFear wrote: post #100
alexis wrote: post #74

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We've been hamstrung by a UI/UX that made a lot more sense when we only had a dozen active subreddits https://web.archive.org/web/20080410190800/http://reddit.com... reddit is a platform for communities like twitter is a platform for individuals. There are a half million communities now on reddit and our onboarding experience should do a better job exposing people to the communities they love (kinda like twitter does…

Upvotes should be weighed by a metric. Just as an example: New users should have less voting power and users with more karma should have a larger voting power with their upvote. Would decrease upvote/downvote bots, incentivizes good content (higher karma gives you slightly more voting power).

Maybe, but if not done carefully, this could also lead to a coterie of high karma "power users" who control the content regular users see. High potential for corruption and drama. This already happens (for example that "biologist here!" fellow who controlled a voting ring to promote his own content and downvote competing content), make karma worth something might make the problem even worse.

Re: Reddit

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Post by vasilipupkin »

dogecoinbase wrote: post #58
odonnellryan wrote: post #29

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I'm confused, sorry. Are you for or against the banning?

I am against a site policy that says "we are aware that something horrible happened, but we aren't willing to make any changes to prevent it from potentially happening again". I'd love to get some feedback from the downvoters, because it's hard for me to reconcile Yishan Wong's statement with Sam's assertion that he's "excited to watch it play out".

I think he is being very clear. For now, at least, he doesn't want to be the moral police - he expects each user to exercise their own moral judgement. I personally prefer reddit to leave moral choices to their users

Re: Reddit

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Post by [deleted] »

silencio wrote: post #117
[deleted] wrote: post #107

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You do not want to see the cesspool that is moderated comments on 2xc. Spam and hateful comments fall pretty fast anyway, but that doesn't mean that it should stay there. What would you prefer - a youtube page with all comments and some hidden due to a low score, or a page with all the shitty comments removed altogether? Someone is going to see that shit anyway and it's going to be awful as it involves everything fro…

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Re: Reddit

#129

Post by B-Con »

avn2109 wrote: post #86
B-Con wrote: post #56

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> One thing I sincerely hope reddit will do with the new injection is to increase the level of quality of content and discussion across the board. Often the advice given is "you've got to find the smaller subreddits" and while that's true, I think having the first few layers filled with terrible content and hive-minded, often racist/sexist discussion is incredibly detrimental to both the site's image and new user exp…

>> "Do we have any examples of large Internet communities with unilateral good discussion?" I don't mean to belabor the obvious here, but do you consider HN a "large Internet community?"

> I don't mean to belabor the obvious here, but do you consider HN a "large Internet community?"

No. I'm talking about the largest 30 or so Internet communities.

Re: Reddit

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Post by toomuchtodo »

alexis wrote: post #74
kyro wrote: post #9

Exciting news. One thing I sincerely hope reddit will do with the new injection is to increase the level of quality of content and discussion across the board. Often the advice given is "you've got to find the smaller subreddits" and while that's true, I think having the first few layers filled with terrible content and hive-minded, often racist/sexist discussion is incredibly detrimental to both the site's image and…

We've been hamstrung by a UI/UX that made a lot more sense when we only had a dozen active subreddits https://web.archive.org/web/20080410190800/http://reddit.com... reddit is a platform for communities like twitter is a platform for individuals. There are a half million communities now on reddit and our onboarding experience should do a better job exposing people to the communities they love (kinda like twitter does…

> e.g., There are Cleveland Browns fans who've visited reddit every day for years and don't realize there's a r/clevelandbrowns community that they'd love, not to mention r/cleveland and r/foodporn or whatever other communities they'd dig.

Maybe use IP address geolocation to suggest subreddits during onboarding?

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