Nokia acquired by Microsoft • Hacker News Board

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

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Post by coldtea » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 9:10 AM UTC

DominikR wrote: post #282

bdcravens wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Apple already lost to Android. Last count, Android had 80% of the market." Everyone throws this out there, but phones running 2.3 that cost less than $100 are practically a different product than what Apple and Samsung are offering, which is where the true battle is. Over 1/3 of all Androids run 2.3: http://www.ibtimes.com/android-vs-ios-adoption-rates-jelly-b...

A 2.3 Phone will run almost every existing Android app out there. In fact, most Android apps target 2.2 and up.

Which shows how backwards the platform is.

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

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Post by ulfw » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 9:12 AM UTC

7.2 Billion USD for Nokia sounds like a much better deal to me than 12.5 B for Motorola. Kudos to MSFT on finally making that move!

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

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Post by damianknz » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 9:14 AM UTC

adamnemecek wrote: post #14

feniv wrote: post #11

Microsoft is becoming more and more of an integrated software and hardware company than a purely software one. Maybe it's time to change the name to something without the "soft".

Or Microsofthard? I'm not very good at this.

How about: Microkia Softnok

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

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Post by zobzu » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 9:17 AM UTC

rayiner wrote: post #38

This is a great move. There is no money in being an Android vendor except if you're Samsung and are totally vertically integrated. With Windows Phone, Nokia and Microsoft at least have some hope of carving out a profitable stake in the market. Anecdotally, I'm very impressed with some of the new Lumias. I got a 620 to replace my stolen iPhone, and for $200 unlocked its phenomenal phone. The build quality makes a flag…

Im not sure why its better for Nokia to be under MS than working with MS.

It seems to be a great move for MS if anything. That'd be fine if it wasn't a move that was planned by planting a CEO with a plan to decimate the company until MS could buy it. It might be legal but it's certainly not moral.

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

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Post by zobzu » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 9:18 AM UTC

pisarzp wrote: post #315

justincormack wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nokia has lots of debt too, which makes It cheaper

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Microsoft is buying only Nokia's devices & services business, and debt will stay in Nokia. I tried to find any mention of the debt in official press release documents but I couldn't.

&die with

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

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Post by dodyg » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 9:23 AM UTC

iPhone destroyed Microsoft, BlackBerry and Nokia high end smartphone products. Android crushed the rest. End of story.

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

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Post by dagw » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 9:25 AM UTC

pinaceae wrote: post #112

MS paid less for Nokia handset business than for Skype. Oh how the mighty have fallen. Goodbye to the Nokia brand, soon only to be mentioned in rose-tinted lookbacks. Mobile phones, built like a brick, running for days.

Mobile phones, built like a brick, running for days

The sad thing is that someone at Nokia seems to have just remembered those days and they've just announced the Nokia 515. A solidly designed aluminium and gorilla glass 'dumb phone' with a 30+ day standby time.

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

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Post by regularfry » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 9:28 AM UTC

3825 wrote: post #289

regularfry wrote: post #272

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I think Nokia had more to do with Nokia's decline than iOS or Android. They had the hardware and software to do what Apple and Palm did at least a full generation before iPhone 1.

The Nokia n95 was announced in September 2006 and available in March 2007. Its ad slogan was "It's what computers have become."[0] What stands out in the second paragraph of the article where they highlight the capabilities is "the ability to install and run third party Java ME or Symbian mobile applications". By contrast, the iPhone was decidedly not a computer. Not in the traditional sense. It is apparent in hindsi…

I'd argue that the N770 in 2005 was even more interesting. Less polished as a product overall, but if they'd just slapped a phone in it...

Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 9:41 AM UTC

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Re: Nokia acquired by Microsoft

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Post by caberus » Tue, Sep 03, 2013, 9:41 AM UTC

maybe it sounds irrelevant, but always i wonder that, why Nokia pays less attention to Linux, a Finnish company and an OS born in Finland? Only a few Nokia devices run some kind of Linux and i think they are not so bad (my favorite is N9, btw).