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because once they run out of tokens they can’t do their jobs anymore
This is a sad state of affair. I'm faster with the LLM, but I sure as hell can do everything just like I could, as before the current state of things.
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Half of the engineers at OAI and Anthropic are Asian, I don't think China does all these for signaling.
I was not trying to make that kind of argument, but rather a geopolitical one. Retaining world-class talent and home-growing industries is no small feat. In Europe, we have been struggling with this, and I am not even entirely sure why.
...touching myself RN.
Performance per dollar is in the ‘too good to be true’ territory, what’s the deal here?
This is China's way of applying its modus operandi of '80% the quality at 20% the price' to LLMs. Aim is dumping the tokens on the world market like they did with other industries like shipbuilding, steel etc.
DS has a lot more than mere 80% of Claude's capability, and the price is a lot less than 20%.
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The training use is probably responsible for this improvement tho.
They could certainly still achieve that even if they had a slightly more expensive tier with a (pinky promise) "no training" bit set, or even if it were just an opt-in most users wouldn't bother with.
I have updated OpenAI's chart[1] from yesterday to include one more datapoint: DeepSeek V4 Flash 0731. It's on the frontier. https://files.parasmittal.com/openai_aa_luna_dsflash.svg 1: https://openai.com/index/advancing-the-price-performance-fro...
LOL https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/deepseek-v4-flash#intel... High hopes for V4 Pro
If deepseek v4 flash is beating DeepSeek V4 Pro, can we expect new V4 Pro which is on par with Opus 5 in couple weeks (even better if it beats Opus)?
I’m salivating at the thought of this! Deepseek v4 Pro prices with Opus 5 perf would be freaking unbelievable!! This is probably a dream.
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same plan as always. stop from producing native capablity and then use the dependency to your advantage like becoming un attackable. cheap shit is more powerful that a nuclear shield.
But why would "we" want to attack them anyway?