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why do they do if their employers are paying for it?
because once they run out of tokens they can’t do their jobs anymore
really? which employer gives you fixed tokens to do your work?
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It's less than $1/TB. If you have settlement-free peering it's like fractions of a penny at scale. Cloud provider DTO pricing is literally the biggest scam on Earth.
What does DTO mean in this case? And settlement-free peering? I didn't know the price for S3 could be so cheap with AWS
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And what is their nefarious plan after we get "addicted to cheap shit"?
same plan as always. stop from producing native capablity and then use the dependency to your advantage like becoming un attackable. cheap shit is more powerful that a nuclear shield.
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#264Wow this thing just blew out the pareto front for intelligence/$
If Luna hadn't price dropped yesterday it would have been a real blowout.
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#265Performance per dollar is in the ‘too good to be true’ territory, what’s the deal here?
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#266Performance per dollar is in the ‘too good to be true’ territory, what’s the deal here?
>what’s the deal here?
It's good.
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Chinese are pretty pragmatic. Even if they produce more expensive chips and memory, they are still going to focus on value. But who knows, maybe India will step up again like they did for Y2K 3 decades ago.
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Pragmatism is as American as it gets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pragmatism
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Personally I'm hoping for EU to step up a bit
Personally I don't. Wasting enormous amounts of resources on a technology that doesn't make money, can easily be copied, and eats up everyone's energy while at the same time can be downloaded over the internet is kind of stupid. The fact that China could catch up in what, two years, shows that this is a commodity.
A fantastically useful commodity that resists monopoly is the best outcome.
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>what’s the deal here? It's good.
So is Fable, I’m asking who is the customer if the thing is free
"The thing" isn't free [0]: It is cheap by US/EU income standards.
> who is the customer
If no one else, then definitely those that can only budget $1/mo to $5/mo. Probably 100s of millions, if not billions, of the Global South.
[0] Free access to DeepSeek v4 Flash is indeed available from providers like OpenRouter, OpenCode, and Freebuff (to name a few), but no ZDR.