A bit off-topic, but I (as a non-native reader) find the "anti" in the name off-putting. Has it a special meaning beyond the (meta)physics or is Google just bad with naming?
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Google's Antigravity bait and switch
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Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#332Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have the source to everything you use in life right? You can make your own car, patrol, shampoo, grow your own food, build your own house, wire your own electricity (and generate it), can switch to having your own reserve of drinking water anytime and plumb it, etc. Nothing against you personally but that kind of logic is getting old. I get it that you don't trust corporations but asserting it like open source pr…
If I woke up one day to find some corporation had snuck in overnight and subbed out my shampoo for their newest scent without asking, then yeah I'd be looking for more reliable options for that too
The car is a better example. I'd be infuriated if my car received an OTA that made it play ads or something. I have to trust that the company won't do that (or buy a car that doesn't have OTA capability).
Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#333Earlier quoted context omitted.
All I know is internally they were recommending people use Gemini CLI until they switched to recommending Jetski/Windsurf CLI. Even before that, I could tell Jetski was way ahead, but still people from Gemini CLI were trying to convince me to use it.
Jetski/Antigravity is a better piece of software. The Gemini CLI codebase looks like someone tried to vibe-code a Claude code clone in nodeJS, as it's simply not maintainable. That being said, until recently Gemini CLI was better. It had support for persistent policies on what code could run without asking and had good extension hooks to allow you write extensions that influence policy (to perform complex logic like…
Maybe I'm just a cranky old greybeard, but to me, the fact that these CLI tools are written in Node, React, etc. says a lot about the type of devs that are building them
Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#334I never really used the Antigravity IDE, but had it installed. The update also made me do a double take and wonder what the hell was going on. It seems like Google is hitting the reset button on the product they call "Antigravity", existing users be damned. Fine, if you've never installed or used the previous version before... but for existing users the "bait and switch" is incredibly disorientating. My take is they…
That's the issue with Google, no specific user group is significant enough for Google to care
Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#335How did Google blow their AI lead? Why is Google the 2nd or 3rd tier player in the AI coding market? Why can't GCP supplant AWS? Because google can't help but constantly shoot its customers and itself in the foot.
> Why is Google the 2nd or 3rd tier player in the AI coding market?
2nd, 3rd? No way. You either use Claude Code or Codex, the 3rd option usually was Github Copilot. The only time I heard someone used google for code writing it was Linux Torvalds in one of his commits.
Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#336I never really used the Antigravity IDE, but had it installed. The update also made me do a double take and wonder what the hell was going on. It seems like Google is hitting the reset button on the product they call "Antigravity", existing users be damned. Fine, if you've never installed or used the previous version before... but for existing users the "bait and switch" is incredibly disorientating. My take is they…
That's the issue with Google, no specific user group is significant enough for Google to care
Classic Google problem: nobody gets promoted for maintaining anything. Promotions require doing Something Big. Convince everybody that your new feature is so much better than the old experience that it’s worthy of nuking the old experience, and that’s evidence that your New Thing is more worthy of you getting promoted. That’s how shit like this happens at Google.
Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#337Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do we still need an IDE though? I am very happy with Claude Code last 6 months. I can totally see why Google got rid of everything, but the dialog box. Perhaps it was stupid to do that without warning, but ultimately this is the future.
I find this comment mind-boggling; in an honest confusion, not insulting way. I use Claude Code (and desktop) on a daily basis; but I can't even imagine doing anything complex without being able to see the code.
Maybe the GP was more about: "Why have agent in IDE?" kind of comment, which I understand. Having a small window into agent is annoying for me. I prefer to have coding agent in CLI and do my editing in IDE (and seeing the code changes there, I still see no point in CLI agents providing me with diffs, I can see those using e.g. git diff or IDE).
Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#338"We should be able to trust that our tools will remain the tools we actually signed up to use." Yep... well that's what free software and open-source is for. You can't trust corporations so you MUST have the actual code. Harsh lesson but at least if something is learned and the mistake not repeated, that's OK.
You have the source to everything you use in life right? You can make your own car, patrol, shampoo, grow your own food, build your own house, wire your own electricity (and generate it), can switch to having your own reserve of drinking water anytime and plumb it, etc. Nothing against you personally but that kind of logic is getting old. I get it that you don't trust corporations but asserting it like open source pr…
As others pointed out it's not the same dynamic when it's not about software.
The big picture is that agency was lost and that's not OK.
Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#339How did Google blow their AI lead? Why is Google the 2nd or 3rd tier player in the AI coding market? Why can't GCP supplant AWS? Because google can't help but constantly shoot its customers and itself in the foot.
> Why is Google the 2nd or 3rd tier player in the AI coding market? 2nd, 3rd? No way. You either use Claude Code or Codex, the 3rd option usually was Github Copilot. The only time I heard someone used google for code writing it was Linux Torvalds in one of his commits.
Cursor is also definitely more popular than Gemini CLI
Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch
#340Easy solution is to never ever use anything from Google unless you really must. They are the worst company by far in just starting stuff and abandoning them and providing zero support.
I was going to say the exact same thing. The only thing you might be able to count on is GMail, and I'm not sure even it won't go away someday.
I would have said the same about search, but, well…