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Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by dgellow »

TylerH wrote: post #274
fnord77 wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't even figure out what Stainless does (did)

Nothing (AI slop to create an unnecessary product, funded by A16Z).

To be clear, because that has incorrectly been reported since at least 2024, none of the codegen at stainless has ever been AI based.

Alex vision has always been to generate code other engineers would love reading. It’s something I know the team is very proud of and what attracted most of us. We all joined because we wanted to raise the quality of developer experience across the board and I believe that we did it successfully

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by dgellow »

trueno wrote: post #291
fnord77 wrote: post #266

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I can't even figure out what Stainless does (did)

do they have one of those websites that looks like all of those websites edit: they sure do

https://www.stainless.com/products/sdks/

I don’t understand your point, things look fairly clear to me, assuming you’re familiar with that part of the industry. We didn’t hide behind buzzwords and show you the end product right away

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by dgellow »

123malware321 wrote: post #329
TylerH wrote: post #274

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Nothing (AI slop to create an unnecessary product, funded by A16Z).

well you might say that, but they got bought, so in making nothing which no one needed they did find their perfect match, anthropic, who also builds nothing and sells hot air :D. We might have our opinions on AI and slop, but in the end of the day this was a business play and it worked out for the players. Separate that from the actual product and u can respect they did really well for themselves.

In this case we actually were selling something specific. Customers got SDKs/MCP servers/docs websites + the whole release pipeline automation out of the deal. I don’t see where the claims of hot air come from. The SDKs we produce are used by millions of developers every single day. I mean, we worked really closely with the teams at Cloudflare, Mux, Lithic, Finch, Modern Treasury, Scale, and a lots of others. It’s not like we had just a pitch and only had Anthropic as a close customer.

See https://www.stainless.com/customers/ for an overview

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by GoToRO »

replwoacause wrote: post #281

I used to love reading about everything Anthropic was building/doing but the way they’ve toyed with limits has really soured me on them so now I largely ignore the news except for when I decide to piss and moan. The AI space baffles me. One minute a company is the darling of the industry and the next they’ve drawn ire by taking a defense contract, introducing a bug that burns through all your tokens, cutting limits d…

My understanding was that they did that to curb the demand somehow. Normally you would just buy more compute but that is not an option they have.

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by dgellow »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #202
windexh8er wrote: post #178

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I'm waiting for the Enterprise space to wise up. For anyone who's ever worked with any reasonably large company as a vendor (especially a small one) you know how painful redlines in legal can be. Why TF haven't enterprise made it more painful for these events? Basically state that if the service is purchased/sold/shuttered prior to the contract expiry date that a significant penalty (e.g. full refund) is required and…

> Why TF haven't enterprise made it more painful for these events? Hadn't heard of Stainless before today. Did it have enterprise customers?

You can get an overview at https://www.stainless.com/customers/

Though that list isn’t complete

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by dgellow »

shimman wrote: post #134
embedding-shape wrote: post #106

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What's WILD is people ending up relying on these essentially startup-slops that just serves to give you future technical debt once you have to eventually moved away because they got acquired by $INSERT_BAD_GUY_OF_THE_MONTH

The only people "relying" on this are other startups whose VC benefactors force them to use other products under their portfolio in order to goose up their numbers.

You’re wrong though. Please take a look at https://www.stainless.com/customers/.

For context I was the founding member of our customer eng team, the main drive for Stainless adoption came from engineering teams who didn’t have the time/capacity/expertise to implement high quality SDKs + maintain the whole release pipeline automation across multiple languages. The pitch is „we want you to focus on your domain of expertises. We handle all the plumbing for your end users to have the best DX possible when using your services“. Which is IMHO very compelling

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by dgellow »

b65e8bee43c2ed0 wrote: post #149
shimman wrote: post #134

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The only people "relying" on this are other startups whose VC benefactors force them to use other products under their portfolio in order to goose up their numbers.

that makes so much sense. I always wondered how the fuck did all those ZIRP era "hello world as a service" bullshit startups have any customers at all.

Stainless wasn’t created during the zero-interest era. And we had paying customers since literally the first month of existence. We developed everything in close collaboration with customers

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by dgellow »

britannio wrote: post #122
dgellow wrote: post #49

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If you have an account you can go to https://app.stainless.com/transition . The team spent a good amount of time working on a way for customers to switch to self-service

Is this public? I'm interested in trying it.

Could you reach out to transition@stainless.com?

Re: Anthropic acquires Stainless

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Post by TrackerFF »

solenoid0937 wrote: post #290
drchaim wrote: post #245

X: What are you folks doing? A: Writing docs at an SF AI company for $500k TC. B: Designing, maintaining, and implementing all features for a platform in the IoT sector in Spain — alone — for €40,000. A: Spain? I just bought a villa near the beach, close to Alicante. Do you know it? B: Yes..

There is a reason the EU has massive brain drain towards the US. This comes with the territory of being super unfriendly to corporations and high earners. It has its benefits too of course. Free healthcare, safety net, public transit, well maintained cities, happier median person. While the EU does a good job optimizing life for the median person, it is a nightmare for the exceptional. It should find a way to fix thi…

There's this myth that only the absolute best, the crème de la crème of European engineers will emigrate to the US to work in tech there. That is simply not true. There are tens of thousands of extremely competent engineers here that either won't, or can't leave for the US, not even if offered 10x their current salary.

And to be frank, that's not only Europe.

The challenge with Europe is not talent, but funding - and that is related to those things you wrote, namely how companies are taxed in some European countries.

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