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Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Re: Meta to start capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training

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Active conspiracy with opposing counsel to drag it out, avoid obvious resolutions, etc. Extremely common with divorce attorneys - and labor law.

That sounds actionable if your lawyer (that you're paying) isn't actually working for you.

Wait until you talk to the state Bar. That is when the real fuckery starts.

Good luck getting a lawyer to sue another lawyer either.

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Active conspiracy with opposing counsel to drag it out, avoid obvious resolutions, etc. Extremely common with divorce attorneys - and labor law.

Do you have proof or at least some evidence?

Of course. They really didn’t like that.

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Maybe in 2010 or 2015, but in 2026? Nobody is quitting their high paying job when the job market is this rough . A bubble has burst and there just are not the tech jobs out there that there used to be. And employers know this, so they are enacting all kinds of draconian policies because they know employees know that they can't just leave the job and also keep their families fed.

If only there was some way where workers in this profession could form some type of JOIN(but like a vertical version?) between different sets of workers, even crossing company boundaries, so that workers could coordinate to ensure that everyone would be quitting at once, and therefore have any power at all to block anti-worker edicts.

So, like an intersection of workers?

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Hint: it’s also fiction

I wish. Check out colleagues.ai as the Chinese equivalent of the programme.

If that actually replaces your coworker, I feel sorry for everyone.

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The same company is trying to build an AI Zuckerberg...

It is going to be funny in a few decades when zuck transfers his shares and voting rights and estate to the ai bot, and makes himself functionally immortal. Or at least a sort of commissioned renaissance painting version of himself, probably. Imagine in 300 years we are still ruled by zuck, ellison, bezos, musk, thiel, et al, just in ai model form empowered by estates worth more than entire nations and legal protecti…

You're just being fatuo- NO THIS ACTUALLY IS GOING TO HAPPEN. IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. I have no doubt they're shameless enough to literally do this if they could get away with it

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This is going to be a huge chilling factor for employees. You’d no longer be able to disent, or discuss anything non-work related with even the slightest expectation of privacy. Yes they could have accessed logs before but there’s a difference between directed checking after incidents and active surveillance at scale.

Tbh that's to be expected, the work machine is the company's property and there shouldn't be any expectation of privacy. I work at a tech firm in India, and we are encouraged to create skills.md based on the traits of our colleagues, with the intention of reducing key personnel risk. A handful of engineers were let go as the result of a re-alignment, and their AI counterparts are actively maintaining their code. I wo…

Strong disagree (especially under US law). Consider what this means for union organizing in the context of this 2022 NLRB memo.

> Under settled Board law, numerous practices employers may engage in using new surveillance and management technologies are already unlawful. In cases involving employer observation of open protected concerted activity and public union activity like picketing or handbilling, the Board has recognized that “pictorial recordkeeping tends to create fear among employees of future reprisals.”10 The Board accordingly balances an employer’s justification for surveillance “against the tendency of that conduct to interfere with employees’ right to engage in concerted activity.”11 In that context, “the Board has long held that absent proper justification, the photographing of employees engaged in protected concerted activities violates the Act because it has a tendency to intimidate.”12

https://www.nlrb.gov/news-outreach/news-story/nlrb-general-c...

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job market is 2019 levels this rhetoric is nice, but doesn't stack up. yes it's not 2021 levels which is where they over hired and hired a bunch of people they would not have hired before then.

The tech job market was about 2019 levels a year ago. It's materially worse now.

We are at 2001 dot-com bubble burst levels now, as far as I'm concerned.

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It's absolutely wild to me that anyone has ever operated under any other assumption. If you want to complain about your boss do it at happy hour.

It's absolutely wild to me that anyone has ever operated under any other assumption. Maybe because they're aware that complaining about the boss is protected by law (in the United States and many other countries).

It being protected has nothing to do with a presumption of privacy in corporate communications. At a minimum you should be aware that your work related communications are subject to discovery.

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It's absolutely wild to me that anyone has ever operated under any other assumption. Maybe because they're aware that complaining about the boss is protected by law (in the United States and many other countries).

It amazes me that people seem to think that once they have clocked in for work they have entered some kind of dystopian dictatorship where all their rights are immediately forfeited. And that people are fundamentally not allowed to push back against this kind of bullshit.

What right is forfeited? The only reasonable assumption to make is that your boss can read everything. Regardless of if you think it is fair or not it is still the safest assumption.
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