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Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by trenchpilgrim »

CaptainOfCoit wrote: post #312
andrewl-hn wrote: post #306

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably it helps that Sublime doesn't come with an AI agentic features, LSP, and a whole video-conferncing and screen-sharing client by default.

> and a whole video-conferncing and screen-sharing client by default Haha wait what? Are you confusing Zed (the text editor) with something else? Surely it doesn't ship with video conferencing???

It has a voice chat system built in as part if the collaboration tools. Personally I think they should remove the voice chat...

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by earthnail »

lintfordpickle wrote: post #228
earthnail wrote: post #211

I absolutely love the idea of Zed, and I'm regularly giving it a go. Typing in Zed really feels better than VSCode. It's hard to describe, but impossible to discard once you've used it for a short while. Unfortunately, there's a bunch of small things still holding me back. Proper file drag & drop for one, the ability to listen to audio files inside the editor, and even a bunch of extensions, in particular one that sh…

I have to ask because I just can't wrap my head around it, what does 'ability to listen to audio files inside the editor' mean for a text editor?

In vscode you can click on various assets, like images or audio files, and then view them right inside vscode. If you work with datasets, the ability to inspect them is crucial.

Yes ofc I can use Finder instead but in vscode I just cmd+p.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by zargon »

ramon156 wrote: post #233
zargon wrote: post #189

I want to try Zed, but it’s not going to happen until they remove the nonconsensual download of unattested third party code.

What do you mean by that? The extensions? Do you want them to maintain that themselves? Either you have a community that happily maintains extensions or you have an "official" extension manager that rolls out an update every next year

Extensions to me mean something that I explicitly choose to install (regardless of whether they automatically update). As far as I can tell, Zed goes about downloading code (“extensions”?) invisibly with no user input. See, for example, https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/12589

> or you have an "official" extension manager that rolls out an update every next year

As a debian user, sign me up!

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by WesolyKubeczek »

torginus wrote: post #323
neobrain wrote: post #301

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Judging by this note in the docs: Collaboration features. https://zed.dev/docs/development/freebsd#webrtc-notice

If they're going to implement every feature under the sun and include half of userspace to support it, they might as well build the whole thing on top of a browser.

vscode has entered the chat...

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by afandian »

VGHN7XDuOXPAzol wrote: post #329
afandian wrote: post #315

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On the subject of surprising behaviour. I did something last week. I don't know what it was, but maybe some kind of fat-finger error. It randomly deleted 3-line chunks all across my codebase. No rhyme or reason. I was just about to commit a big change, so it was annoying. It might have been a global search and replace, but there was no clue in the history. And I can't think what kind of regex it could have been. Or m…

Just a pure guess, but if you do a global find, you get a list of 3-line-ish chunks of context around search matches. If you then Ctrl+A to select all and press backspace, I wonder if that would delete all those 3-line chunks...

That's almost certainly it. I'd probably searched for common fragment. And 'select all' does indeed select across all of the search result buffers. Thanks!

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by adastra22 »

poly2it wrote: post #112
adastra22 wrote: post #101

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You literally can’t tell the difference in a 20ms delay. That is an order of magnitude lower than the neural feedback loop latency. You may think that you can, but studies don’t back this up.

Do you not perceive more than 50 Hz?

Do you react and respond per-frame of a video?

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by adastra22 »

comex wrote: post #156
adastra22 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You literally can’t tell the difference in a 20ms delay. That is an order of magnitude lower than the neural feedback loop latency. You may think that you can, but studies don’t back this up.

Let's see. https://web-backend.simula.no/sites/default/files/publicatio... > At the most sensitive, our findings reveal that some perceive delays below 40 ms. However, the median threshold suggests that motorvisual delays are more likely than not to go undetected below 51-90 ms. By this study's numbers, 20ms is somewhat below the lower limit of ~40ms, but not too far below. 100ms would be easily perceivable - though,…

He’s not arguing that he can perceive the latency. He’s arguing that the latency affects his work/productivity. That claim seems unreasonable.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by trenchpilgrim »

pjmlp wrote: post #311
markus_zhang wrote: post #309

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ST is a text editor while Zed is an IDE. I wish there were something like VSCode that is very modular but written in native. But VSCode is good enough and it is my daily driver.

For those on Windows, which is the topic at hand, UltraEdit and Notepad++. I disagree Zed is an IDE, it is quite far from InteliJ, Borland/Embarcadero, VS, XCode, Eclipse, Netbeans... If it is about adding enough plugins until it eventually becomes one, then any programmer's editor is an IDE.

My line is - if I can compile, run and debug my program through the editor UI instead of a terminal, it's an IDE.

Re: Zed is now available on Windows

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Post by trenchpilgrim »

wiz21c wrote: post #254

Tested it a bit on a 2000 LOC python file, autocomplete is sluggish compared to VSCode (VSCode completes almost instantly but Zed waits about half a second before doing so). I didn't configure anything so I'm a bit disappointed...

Zed's ootb Python experience is poor since they use pyright as the LSP. There's threads on the issue tracker about replacing it, maybe check back in six months.
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