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Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by dev1ycan »

oefrha wrote: post #19

I’m skeptical. Cloudflare clearly wants to move us to a future where only approved browsers are allowed to access the web. People have been fiercely debating whether that’s a terrible thing, or whether that’s the least bad practical solution on offer for website owners. I don’t want to make a judgement on that, but I don’t think the observation that CF is pushing us in that direction is very controversial. But an ind…

Corporations sometimes will do seemingly good things in order to maintain their control, Google is a threat to Cloudflare and their business, what I believe however is that this will have significant pushback from the government seeing how Google seems to be pretty favorable for the current admin, not sure Cloudflare is on the same favorability.

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by 1oooqooq »

Xerox9213 wrote: post #247
marginalia_nu wrote: post #168

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Arch linux is a great linux distro that's kinda difficult to set up (more so historically but it's got that reputation). Hyprland is a great WM that has garbage default settings and requires wading through tons of documentation, as well as a lot of effort to set up. Omarchy is a distribution that ships Arch + Hyprland with sane defaults. The whole thing installs in minutes, and is overall very easy to get going with.…

Does Omarchy offer anything other than opinionated dotfiles? These have always existed.

absolutely not.

every single arch user thought of making a distro with opinionated defaults, but then they realize the just have to edit the wiki to provide the community the same benefit.

some rich dude lack the self awareness for such.

he's both ignoring advanced users would rather have option open and defaults documented, and new users would just use manjaro.

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by quesera »

superkuh wrote: post #308
blahyawnblah wrote: post #188

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It loads fine for me. Maybe you have some other problem?

Nope. It's because the cloudflare captchas require a bleeding edge browser. If one uses a modern commercial browser it works and you've never even presented with a captcha. But in both cases I am tunneling to a VPS to avoid Comcast/Xfinity's MITM injections of javascript into pages and that adds some oddness to my connections. Comcast has a monopoly on high speed internet in my town and I cannot even get DSL or I'd s…

Tell me more? Your setup seems unique and confusing.

Browsing through a proxy does not need to change your User-Agent. I do this all the time.

Xfinity is not MITMing HTTPS sites! You control your trusted CA list.

You don't need to allow JavaScript to run on all sites.

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by okanat »

VerminOctopus1 wrote: post #288
okanat wrote: post #239

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Servo was a side-project. Mozilla laid off the Servo team. Its development then stopped. It eventually found a home in Linux Foundation but it lost the initial acceleration. It lost the ambition. Many key developers moved on. Whatever nature your project is, closed or open source, when you lose key people and stop training new ones, the project slowly dies. People matter much much more than the license or the parent…

There is a leader with a strong vision sure, but how long will he stick with it? We’ve seen him completely abandon a few projects now.

The previous projects were simply hobbies. This one has a full non-profit behind it. In the end though, there is always a risk. Then you need to hope that there is also enough development of secondary leaders who can carry the torch. It is more likely when people are employed under an organization with a clear goal. Mozilla and Servo lacked this goal and vision.

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by dmix »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #305
xenelor wrote: post #275

The hype around Omarchy is just insane.. It is not an installer script (anymore), so instead you have to download a 7GB ISO file (in the name of 'good UX') that ships with Zoom, Spotify, Hey, Basecamp, Steam, Minecraft (??), etc. but you still end up using the same package mirrors (arch's). If it was an install script, like LARBS or many others (before and after omarchy), I'd (almost) get it. If it was a derivative d…

People distro hop all the time for out of the box experience. Very few enjoy configuring their desktop to perfection, because frankly it's a huge PITA with everything being split between a thousand control panels and config files with differing conventions and levels of documentation. When a distro with a default configuration close to what some group of users is looking for shows up, that's exciting to that group be…

It's mostly a PITA on Linux because once you do things yourself they will eventually break and you're the one who will have to figure out how to solve it via your own custom setup again. Similar to Vim templates it saves a lot of time joining a community build.

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by k_bx »

femiagbabiaka wrote: post #35

I cannot for the life of me understand the Omarchy hype. The Linux community has been theming their distribution installs for decades. What distinguishes this from that?

You just need to watch the video to get the hype: it's the specific person leading the hype, with pretty good presentation and loyal audience. At least to me it made sense once I've seen it (the hype made sense, not the distro).

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by 1oooqooq »

nixosbestos wrote: post #277
robinhood wrote: post #83

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The great strength of Omarchy is the fact that they've repackaged every good things from many different projects (arch, hyperland, and many packages) so I can install a fully functional distro with nice defaults, and every hardware working (bluetooth etc...), in less than 3 minutes without any interaction whatsoever. And it just works. Not because of Omarchy per se, but because they scripted the hell out of it so it…

Right. Bluetooth notoriously isn't enabled and working out of box on literally every main distro I can think of. /s (and yes, yes it is .)

it's one package install tho. did you try to search for Bluetooth on the arch wiki?

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by dmix »

threetonesun wrote: post #233
azemetre wrote: post #56

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It's a way for web developers to easily work in the linux sphere without getting burdened too heavily. Not saying that as a dig to web devs, I'm a web deb but that's all it really appears to me. Popular dude in web dev community made it slightly easier for other web devs to do a thing.

Which is a great use of Linux. I have gaming oriented ones (Bazzite, SteamOS) installed for gaming, why not a dev oriented one for dev-ing.

SteamOS is a good analogy

Or Kali Linux

Re: Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

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Post by quesera »

xandrius wrote: post #195
parineum wrote: post #112

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You're severely misinformed and parotting misinformed meme interpretations of fiduciary duty. Integrity and a healthy market align with fiduciary duty as long as one can make the argument that it's in the long term interest of the company. It's really, really difficult to find examples of a person being held liable for not upholding their fiduciary duty because what can be argued as good for the long term success of…

Since you seem so well-informed I would love any example of good-will and strictly not-for-profit activities done directly by a large corporation with shareholders which weren't done have other reasons. Examples of things which don't count: - Supporting an open source competitor to avoid getting hammered by antitrust - Giving money to a foundation (which they may or might not own) for greenwashing - Giving money to a…

There is no act in the world that cannot be interpreted cynically.

You are arguing from a prejudiced position.

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