Cloudflare is sponsoring Ladybird and Omarchy

Post by swed420 » Mon, Sep 22, 2025, 4:55 PM UTC

robinhood wrote: post #76

oefrha wrote: post #19

I’m skeptical. Cloudflare clearly wants to move us to a future where only approved browsers are allowed to access the web. People have been fiercely debating whether that’s a terrible thing, or whether that’s the least bad practical solution on offer for website owners. I don’t want to make a judgement on that, but I don’t think the observation that CF is pushing us in that direction is very controversial. But an ind…

I don't understand why we always assume bad faith. I wish more companies were like Cloudflare actually - trying to balance the need of revenues while trying to do good for internet and open source as a whole. As a normal user with a few sites, I'm glad they provide what they provide to block bots, attacks and everything AI.

Post by tracker1 » Mon, Sep 22, 2025, 4:57 PM UTC

9cb14c1ec0 wrote: post #63

rs186 wrote: post #37

The post does not mention how much money they are giving. Maybe I am a pessimist, but unless the number is in tens of millions or hundreds of millions (very unlikely), I don't think it helps the development of an independent browser very much. Google probably has poured over billions of dollars into Chrome development over the years, and if you look at what Chrome supports, it's massive. I seriously doubt anybody els…

Go look at what the Ladybird project has accomplished with much fewer resources. Ladybird will soon be as good as Firefox.

Post by xandrius » Mon, Sep 22, 2025, 4:58 PM UTC

parineum wrote: post #112

xandrius wrote: post #86

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There is no way you didn't write this comment while laughing out loud. For-profit companies care about profits for their shareholders, that's it. Heck, even non-profit often tend to value more profit than their integrity or cause but that's a topic for another day. I wish this wasn't the case but even good-willed individuals at the helm of for-profits are forced to pursue profit and avoid anything clearly leading to…

You're severely misinformed and parotting misinformed meme interpretations of fiduciary duty. Integrity and a healthy market align with fiduciary duty as long as one can make the argument that it's in the long term interest of the company. It's really, really difficult to find examples of a person being held liable for not upholding their fiduciary duty because what can be argued as good for the long term success of…

Post by throwaway1777 » Mon, Sep 22, 2025, 5:00 PM UTC

blahyawnblah wrote: post #188

superkuh wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloudflare is running the largest and longest denial of service attacks in the history of the internet by acting as arbitrary gatekeeper to important government sites like congress.gov. I haven't been able to load it in years.

It loads fine for me. Maybe you have some other problem?

Post by McGlockenshire » Mon, Sep 22, 2025, 5:03 PM UTC

robinhood wrote: post #76

oefrha wrote: post #19

I’m skeptical. Cloudflare clearly wants to move us to a future where only approved browsers are allowed to access the web. People have been fiercely debating whether that’s a terrible thing, or whether that’s the least bad practical solution on offer for website owners. I don’t want to make a judgement on that, but I don’t think the observation that CF is pushing us in that direction is very controversial. But an ind…

I don't understand why we always assume bad faith. I wish more companies were like Cloudflare actually - trying to balance the need of revenues while trying to do good for internet and open source as a whole. As a normal user with a few sites, I'm glad they provide what they provide to block bots, attacks and everything AI.