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How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by DonnyV »

Uehreka wrote: post #271
farceSpherule wrote: post #237

A lot of people fail to realize that eating healthy and exercising is not enough for a lot of people who fight with their weight their entire lives. Ozempic and Wegovy are game changes and have real, tangible health benefits. One person told me, "No matter how much I eat or exercise, I have been 'hungry' my entire life. That ended when I started taking these drugs."

I gained about 50 pounds the past decade and the past year I’ve been trying to lose it. I weighed myself at the beginning: 205 lbs I started running 30 minutes per day (heartrate training targeting about 140-150), every day, for 10 months. I kept my diet the same as before (though with a protein bar after the run). Weighed myself every week or two, always within a couple pounds of 205. In March I ramped up my runs to…

There are a couple things missing from routine. That protein bar is sabotaging your run. Those things are filled with sugar. You need to do 2 things. Change what your eating and do intermittent fasting to jump start your metabolism.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by valval »

Teever wrote: post #288
SapporoChris wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course it is impossible to live a healthy lifestyle and have healthy weight, if you ignore the 3/5ths of Americans that are not obese and the 7/8th of the global population.

Are the 3/5ths of Americans who are not obese actually living a healthy lifestyle? Or are they just living a different unhealthy lifestyle? Is a skinny homeless methhead with a great BMI healthy? Or the blue collar dude who has terrible blood pressure from chain smoking and pounding energy drinks on his way to the job site? How many Americans who are not obese are on their way to becoming obese? There are lots of pat…

Obesity and poor metabolic health is by far the greatest predictor of an early death.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by ninalanyon »

supportengineer wrote: post #270
andrewla wrote: post #239

I think Ozempic is a treatment of a symptom but not the underlying condition, but unlike many of the posters here, I do not think the underlying condition is "obesity". The below is mostly speculation. Research especially into people with healthy body weight seems to indicate that there is something going on that is causing widespread obesity. That is, there's some sort of environmental "GLP-1 Turbocharger". Maybe it…

We all know the problem: processed food and lack of exercise. We all know the solution: Organic vegetables, lean protein, and lots of exercise.

Just reducing the vast intake of refined sugar in the US would help a lot.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by mmsc »

dfxm12 wrote: post #170

Instead of a system that makes these drug available for purchase, I'd rather live in a system that promotes healthy food and active behavior. Unfortunately, I have to drive everywhere, work too many hours to have free time for recreation and have no idea which government subsidy is going to help big ag likely at the expense of my health. All things being equal, I'd prefer to spend less money on prescriptions and have…

When the majority of the population is so far gone from being in a healthy weight, promoting healthy food for the masses is not going to help that majority. Yes, walkable cities and so on would be great, and promotion of healthy food and habits is great (remember Michelle Obama asking "why are you people so fat wtf?") for future generations, but Ozempic et al. provides a solution where otherwise, a lot of people are simply "lost".

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by beezlebroxxxxxx »

robohydrate wrote: post #299

I've been on tirzepatide (Mounjaro) for 4 months now. I'm down 13% of my body weight. I realized that frequent cannabis consumption interferes with the weight loss, so I've kicked the habit from daily to occasionally on weekends. I've started walking 2-3 miles a day, 2-3 days a week regularly, in addition to eating less and being more motivated to calorie count. All this to say, this drug has been life changing for m…

Is the official recommendation that you continue to take it for the rest of your life? Or, is there a schedule to "wean" people off of it?

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by squidlogic »

llamaimperative wrote: post #256
gcr wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have an open mind, I'd like to assign you some homework if you like. Take a look around r/zepbound and count the following: 1. Posts from folks who diet+exercise, or who have tried diet/exercise and nothing's worked so they then turned to Zepbound ("excited to hit the gym," "my diet is finally starting to work with Zepbound" and similar) 2. Posts from folks who haven't tried diet/exercise and turned to Zepboun…

GP isn't talking about self-control, they're talking about the fact we've created a system that requires obscene amounts of self-control if you wish to maintain physical health. People in the 50s weren't slimmer because they had ironclad determination to stay such.

In my experience fitness is less about self control or will power and more about creating routines that lead to fitness.

For example, I have a routine of going to a group fitness class at my gym in the morning. I don't need to summon willpower, I just have a morning routine that involves doing x thing at y time. No thought required.

Given the abundance of options for fitness classes and meal plan services, you really can just put this on auto-pilot and have a lifestyle that is healthier than 99% of your peers.

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by subroutine »

calvinmorrison wrote: post #231
subroutine wrote: post #226

It will be interesting to see how health insurance companies deal with Ozempic. A few days ago a top article on HN posed the question: Millions of Americans could benefit from drugs like Ozempic; will they bankrupt the healthcare system? Of course there are many health benefits to losing weight. Given there are clear, healthy, non-drug assisted ways to lose weight, should drug-assisted weight loss be considered an 'e…

The cost of someone being on Ozempic is going to be miles less than treating fatties for all the related obesity problems.

I'd have to see some data to be convinced. There is nothing more problematic to health than aging. If we make all "fatties" thin we'll eventually get a bunch of geriatric cancer or dementia patients, or some other expensive age-related health problem (e.g. what is the lifetime healthcare cost-burden of obese people who live on average to 65 vs. thin people who live on average to 85 - just making up numbers here)

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by crooked-v »

Uehreka wrote: post #271
farceSpherule wrote: post #237

A lot of people fail to realize that eating healthy and exercising is not enough for a lot of people who fight with their weight their entire lives. Ozempic and Wegovy are game changes and have real, tangible health benefits. One person told me, "No matter how much I eat or exercise, I have been 'hungry' my entire life. That ended when I started taking these drugs."

I gained about 50 pounds the past decade and the past year I’ve been trying to lose it. I weighed myself at the beginning: 205 lbs I started running 30 minutes per day (heartrate training targeting about 140-150), every day, for 10 months. I kept my diet the same as before (though with a protein bar after the run). Weighed myself every week or two, always within a couple pounds of 205. In March I ramped up my runs to…

Just doing more exercise doesn't actually help much with losing weight, as it turns out. The human body will optimize around even intense exercise to reduce calorie burn to a homeostatically stable level. The exercise will still make you healthier (and have some marginal extra calorie burn from e.g. extra muscle mass), but you'll only lose serious weight if you also reduce what you eat.

There are a bunch of articles out there about it, but Kurzgesagt has a decent pop-science summary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSSkDos2hzo

Re: How long til we're all on Ozempic?

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Post by soulbadguy »

chrismarlow9 wrote: post #253
apsec112 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saying that the cure for obesity is to eat less is like saying that the cure for heroin addiction is to stop using heroin. It's both clearly true, and also useless.

The cure is to teach from an early age about impulse control, moderation, and how to spot signs of addiction in yourself early. This goes for: Social media Drugs and alcohol Food Or literally any other addiction. I don't think this is a useless thing to discuss.

And yet most obese people are no more addicted to food than you are addicted to oxygen...

It's so bizarre how many people will pretzel their way into moralistic non sense to find a solution to what is clearly a medical problem.

Obesity as far as we understanding it now is an hunger regulation problem. For unknown reason a lot of people still feel the need to eat even when their body is clearly in calory surplus.

No amount of of impulse control or moderation can make you override billions of years of evolution and not eat when you are starving... if we could... society would be a very different place

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