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Re: FTC: Vast Surveillance of Users by Social Media and Video Streaming Companies

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The intelligence agencies literally use ad data to do "targeted killing" what are you even talking about? Ex-NSA Chief: 'We Kill People Based on Metadata'...

So terrorists? You're concerned data logging may harm terrorists?

I got my start in the military in anti-terrorism and I find your comment foolishly naive, provacative, and short-sighted beyond measure.

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I did verify with an attorney that since I wasn't involved and made sure the owner knew what was what, that I had no legal obligations to disclose.

What about your moral obligation?

People are so quick to judge without knowing the details, the situation is more complex than I'm willing to go into here, and I'm comfortable with my decision.

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I was never talking about if they made a mistake or not. That is after the fact and outside the scope of what I have been saying. I know it matters, but that is not within the scope of my first comment that started this. I took the little information they gave and from that the only true logical conclusion was they made the right choice for them at that moment. Full Stop. You’re the one bringing the extra opinions in…

> I was never talking about if they made a mistake or not. That is after the fact and outside the scope of what I have been saying. I know it matters, but that is not within the scope of my first comment that started this. When I say mistake here, I specifically mean "mistake as far as their goal of making the right choice". And I mean that in the moment, using knowledge they have at that time, just like you're defin…

Since this thread seems interested, I will reveal the main issue being that based on my analysis, reporting to PCI and the state AG would have absolutely destroyed this (very) small business and the businessowner, someone who helped me in a very rough time, and thus I felt both options were bad/wrong, but resigning without whistleblowing was the better of the two options. I appreciate the analysis and really hope I made the right choice, and if I change my mind, I can still whistleblow on this, which has been a solace in the struggle in this decision.

Re: FTC: Vast Surveillance of Users by Social Media and Video Streaming Companies

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Far from me to try to defend platforms, but I am still wondering (for years now) :

How are data deletion requests supposed to be handled in practice, when the only way to be sure is to physically destroy the hardware that data was stored on ? (Especially the case for transistor-based storage, and even more so when wear leveling is being used.)

Or is this is actually a "pinky promise" by the company to not restore the data (or else they will have to face legal consequences) ?

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post #178

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I’m completely sympathetic to making companies more liable for data security. However, until data breaches regularly lead to severe outcomes for subjects whose personal data was leaked, and those outcomes can be causally linked to the breaches in an indisputable manner, it seems unlikely for such legislation to be passed.

Nearly everyone's data has been leaked already. Any strong protections would only protect people who haven't been born yet imo.

That's quite a weak "only" ?

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Well, perpetual motion is also considered unsolvable. Perhaps the right regulation would make it happen? Or... maybe that line of reasoning isn't super strong.

There's a big difference between breaking the physical laws of the universe and Big Tech not wanting to spend money on moderators.

"Big" is pretty vague there.

But my point was that you asserted that regulations can overcome claims of impossibility. I was just illustrating that is not always true, and therefore we can't assume it is true here.

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> We're all bad people, just some of us are more comfortable with our corruption being visible to others to a higher degree. If the GP's story is true (and I have no reason to suspect otherwise), then there are clearly differences in the degree of "badness" between people. GP chose to resign from his job, while his manager chose to be negligent and dishonest. So, even if we're all bad people, there are less bad and m…

I understand your perspective, but I maintain that "good" (morally pure) isn't a category any of us belong to. We're all lying, hateful people to one extent or another, and lying hateful people aren't "good", even if we haven't lied or hated as much as other lying, hateful people. "Less evil" isn't synonymous with "good". The argument that profit motivation is the origin of shady business practices ignores the existe…

Your attempt of making the situation seem to be asymmetric by arbitrarily defining "good" as absolute good, while "evil" as everything else - is unconvincing. (Why not the opposite - which would also be ridiculous ?)

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post #286

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> it's pretty clear that you are directly harmed if someone takes naked photos of you without your knowledge or consent and then keeps them Sure. In those cases, there are damages and that creates liability. I'm not sure what damages I've ever faced from any leak of e.g. my SSN.

The real kicker is trying to prove which leak your SSN came from. If your SSN gets leaked by 3 different companies, and 6 months later someone uses your identity to commit some crime, you can't have each company share 1/3 of the blame.

I don't see why they couldn't all share the full blame ?

It's not like there's a "conservation of blame" law.

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Very doubtful they've not considered it. When I go to coffee shops, I see maybe a quarter-to-half the laptops have a shade over the webcam. But when I see people using their phones, I've never once seen them use a shade, piece of tape, or post-it note. They use the front-facing camera of their phone so often that the temporary inconvenience of removing a shade outweighs the long-term inconvenience of malware snapping…

But do you think they're taking a measured inventory of the possible consequences, both personal and societal, and saying, "No, I don't value that" ? Extremely few decisions that people make are deeply calculated with cold logic. Most decisions are primarily unconscious, automatic, and emotional. Example: A persons hears it's good to have a webcam cover, so they get one. Nobody mentions doing it for their phone, so t…

I don't even have a cell phone! I have a Libreboot-ed X200 running a 100%-libre distribution of GNU/Linux. My MAC address is randomized every hour. I pulled the OnStar fuse from my car 10 years ago. I run my own email server, and use E2E encryption when my recipient knows how. I use Tor and VPNs. My home phone number is public and posted to my website, and I can't control who has it anyway.
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