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Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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You know she has advisors, right?

If someone "advises" you that a company is about to do something major, and this isn't public information, and you take action on the stock market accordingly, that's insider trading.

US Congress members are generally immune from insider trading laws

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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Are you alleging that Nancy Pelosi invested in Databricks, a private company without a fluctuating share price, because she learned that they would soon release a small, fairly middling LLM that probably won't move the needle in any meaningful way?

Are you suggesting that Nancy Pelosi, who consistently beats the market through obvious insider trading for years in a row, bought a share in Databricks without any insider info? Possible, yet unlikely is my opinion. https://jacobin.com/2021/12/house-speaker-paul-stocks-inside... PS: "without a fluctuating share price" is non-sense. Just because the share is of a private company, doesn't mean its price can't fluctuat…

Nancy beats the market because tech beats the market

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone "advises" you that a company is about to do something major, and this isn't public information, and you take action on the stock market accordingly, that's insider trading.

US Congress members are generally immune from insider trading laws

By law they’re not protected at all since 2012. But SEC curiously seems to ignore them, and congresspeople are experts in exercising loopholes in SEC regulations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STOCK_Act

For instance, Pelosi in the Databricks case gets to purchase significant shares at pre-IPO prices, which is a thing that shouldn't even exist.

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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I am planning to buy a new GPU. If the GPU has 16GB of VRAM, and the model is 70GB, can it still run well? Also, does it run considerably better than on a GPU with 12GB of VRAM? I run Ollama locally, mixtral works well (7B, 3.4GB) on a 1080ti, but the 24.6GB version is a bit slow (still usable, but has a noticeable start-up time).

I genuinely recommend considering AMD options. I went with a 7900 XTX because it has the most VRAM for any $1000 card (24 GB). NVIDIA cards at that price point are only 16 GB. Ollama and other inference software works on ROCm, generally with at most setting an environment variable now. I've even run Ollama on my Steam Deck with GPU inferencing :)

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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post #11

I am planning to buy a new GPU. If the GPU has 16GB of VRAM, and the model is 70GB, can it still run well? Also, does it run considerably better than on a GPU with 12GB of VRAM? I run Ollama locally, mixtral works well (7B, 3.4GB) on a 1080ti, but the 24.6GB version is a bit slow (still usable, but has a noticeable start-up time).

I genuinely recommend considering AMD options. I went with a 7900 XTX because it has the most VRAM for any $1000 card (24 GB). NVIDIA cards at that price point are only 16 GB. Ollama and other inference software works on ROCm, generally with at most setting an environment variable now. I've even run Ollama on my Steam Deck with GPU inferencing :)

I ended up getting a 2nd hand 3090 for 680€.

Funnily, I think the card is new (smells new) and unused, most likely a scalper bought it and couldn't sell it.

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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I would note the actual leading models right now (IMO) are: - Miqu 70B (General Chat) - Deepseed 33B (Coding) - Yi 34B (for chat over 32K context) And of course, there are finetunes of all these. And there are some others in the 34B-70B range I have not tried (and some I have tried, like Qwen, which I was not impressed with). Point being that Llama 70B, Mixtral and Grok as seen in the charts are not what I would call…

Qwen1.5-72B-Chat is dominant in the Chatbot Arena leaderboard, though. (Miqu isn't on there due to being bootleg, but Qwen outranks Mistral Medium.)

Yeah I know, hence its odd I found it kind of dumb for personal use. Moreso with the smaller models, which lost an objective benchmark I have to some Mistral finetunes.

And I don't think I was using it wrong. I know, for instance, the Chinese language models are funny about sampling since I run Yi all the time.

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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post #233

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I didn’t suggest a free lunch, just that the 8x reduction in RAM (+ faster processing) does not result in an 8x growth in the error. Thus a quantized model will outperform a non-quantized one on a evaluation/RAM metric.

That's not a good metric.

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Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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The approval on the base model is not feeling very open. Plenty of people still waiting on a chance to download it, where as the instruct model was an instant approval. The base model is more interesting to me for finetuning.

FWIW looks like people are getting access now.

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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post #245

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Many applications dont want to host inference on the cloud and would ideally run things locally. Hardware constraints is clearly important. Id actually say its the most important metric for most open models now, since the price per performance of closed cloud models is so competitive with open cloud models, so edge inference that is competitive is a clear value add

It's not that memory usage isn't important, it's that dividing error by memory gives you a useless number. The benefit from incremental error decrease is highly nonlinear, as with memory. Improving error by 1% matters a lot more starting from 10% error than 80%. Also a model that used no memory and got everything wrong would have the best score.

I see, I agree with you. But I would imagine the useful metric to be “error rate below X GB memory”. We really just need memory and/or compute reported when these evaluations are performed to compile that. People do it for training reports since compute and memory is implicit based on training time (since people saturate it and report what hardware they’re using). But for inference no such details :\

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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> chart crime of truncating the y axis If you chart the temperature of the ocean do you keep the y-axis anchored at zero Kelvin?

If you chart the temperature of the ocean are you measuring it in Kelvin?

Apparently, if you want to avoid "chart crime" when you chart temperatures, then it's deceptive if you don't start at absolute zero.
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