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Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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I am planning to buy a new GPU.

If the GPU has 16GB of VRAM, and the model is 70GB, can it still run well? Also, does it run considerably better than on a GPU with 12GB of VRAM?

I run Ollama locally, mixtral works well (7B, 3.4GB) on a 1080ti, but the 24.6GB version is a bit slow (still usable, but has a noticeable start-up time).

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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GenAI novice here. what is training data made of how is it collected? I guess no one will share details on it, otherwise a good technical blog post with lots of insights! >At Databricks, we believe that every enterprise should have the ability to control its data and its destiny in the emerging world of GenAI. >The main process of building DBRX - including pretraining, post-training, evaluation, red-teaming, and refi…

The most detailed answer to that I've seen is the original LLaMA paper, which described exactly what that model was trained on (including lots of scraped copyrighted data) https://arxiv.org/abs/2302.13971 Llama 2 was much more opaque about the training data, presumably because they were already being sued at that point (by Sarah Silverman!) over the training data that went into the first Llama! A couple of things I'v…

my question was specific to databricks model. If it followed llama or openai, they could add a line or two about it .. make the blog complete.

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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Model card for base: https://huggingface.co/databricks/dbrx-base > The model requires ~264GB of RAM I'm wondering when everyone will transition from tracking parameter count vs evaluation metric to (total gpu RAM + total CPU RAM) vs evaluation metric. For example, a 7B parameter model using float32s will almost certainly outperform a 7B model using float4s. Additionally, all the examples of quantizing recently releas…

I thought float4 sacrificed a negligible cost in evaluation quality for a 8x reduction in RAM?

A free lunch? Wouldn't that be nice! Sometimes the quantization process improves the accuracy a little (probably by implicit regularization) but a model that's at or near capacity (as it should be) is necessarily hurt by throwing away most of the information. Language models often quantize well to small fixed-point types like int4, but it's not a magic wand.

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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post #11

I am planning to buy a new GPU. If the GPU has 16GB of VRAM, and the model is 70GB, can it still run well? Also, does it run considerably better than on a GPU with 12GB of VRAM? I run Ollama locally, mixtral works well (7B, 3.4GB) on a 1080ti, but the 24.6GB version is a bit slow (still usable, but has a noticeable start-up time).

> mixtral works well

Do you mean mistral?

mixtral is 8x7B and requires like 100GB of RAM

Edit: (without quant as others have pointed out) can definitely be lower, but haven't heard of a 3.4GB version

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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it's twice the size of mixtral and barely beats it.

It's a MoE model, so it offers a different memory/compute latency trade-off than standard dense models. Quoting the blog post:

> DBRX uses only 36 billion parameters at any given time. But the model itself is 132 billion parameters, letting you have your cake and eat it too in terms of speed (tokens/second) vs performance (quality).

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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post #11

I am planning to buy a new GPU. If the GPU has 16GB of VRAM, and the model is 70GB, can it still run well? Also, does it run considerably better than on a GPU with 12GB of VRAM? I run Ollama locally, mixtral works well (7B, 3.4GB) on a 1080ti, but the 24.6GB version is a bit slow (still usable, but has a noticeable start-up time).

> mixtral works well Do you mean mistral? mixtral is 8x7B and requires like 100GB of RAM Edit: (without quant as others have pointed out) can definitely be lower, but haven't heard of a 3.4GB version

I have two 3090s and it runs fine with `ollama run mixtral`. Although OP definitely meant mistral with the 7B note

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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post #11

I am planning to buy a new GPU. If the GPU has 16GB of VRAM, and the model is 70GB, can it still run well? Also, does it run considerably better than on a GPU with 12GB of VRAM? I run Ollama locally, mixtral works well (7B, 3.4GB) on a 1080ti, but the 24.6GB version is a bit slow (still usable, but has a noticeable start-up time).

>If the GPU has 16GB of VRAM, and the model is 70GB, can it still run well? Also, does it run considerably better than on a GPU with 12GB of VRAM?

No, it can't run at all.

>I run Ollama locally, mixtral works well (7B, 3.4GB) on a 1080ti, but the 24.6GB version is a bit slow (still usable, but has a noticeable start-up time).

That is not mixtral, that is mistral 7b. The 1080ti is slower than running inference on current generation threadripper cpus.

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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post #11

I am planning to buy a new GPU. If the GPU has 16GB of VRAM, and the model is 70GB, can it still run well? Also, does it run considerably better than on a GPU with 12GB of VRAM? I run Ollama locally, mixtral works well (7B, 3.4GB) on a 1080ti, but the 24.6GB version is a bit slow (still usable, but has a noticeable start-up time).

> mixtral works well Do you mean mistral? mixtral is 8x7B and requires like 100GB of RAM Edit: (without quant as others have pointed out) can definitely be lower, but haven't heard of a 3.4GB version

I run mixtral 6 bit quant very happily on my MacBook with 64 gb.

Re: DBRX: A new open LLM

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post #11

I am planning to buy a new GPU. If the GPU has 16GB of VRAM, and the model is 70GB, can it still run well? Also, does it run considerably better than on a GPU with 12GB of VRAM? I run Ollama locally, mixtral works well (7B, 3.4GB) on a 1080ti, but the 24.6GB version is a bit slow (still usable, but has a noticeable start-up time).

> mixtral works well Do you mean mistral? mixtral is 8x7B and requires like 100GB of RAM Edit: (without quant as others have pointed out) can definitely be lower, but haven't heard of a 3.4GB version

I'm using mixtral-8x7b-v0.1.Q4_K_M.gguf with llama.cpp and it only requires 25GB.
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