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Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by Apocryphon »

subsistence234 wrote: post #326
Apocryphon wrote: post #179

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They dealt with problematic tweets, not an "edgy fursona."

Yup. Everyone in the office loves edgy fart-porn childrens-cartoon fursonas who have regular consent-accidents.

It’s dubious whether this person brought their social media personality into the office. And who’s to say that the entire localized team might not share in the same culture? Would be interesting to hear accounts from the coworkers. Certainly it sounds like there was at least one who had the author’s back. Finally, I am unsure whether that is an accurate, or fair, assessment about their particular subculture. Are you operating with additional insight on that subject? From an insider’s perspective, perhaps?

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by Apocryphon »

weeeeelp wrote: post #325
morelisp wrote: post #58

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Neither is not bombing civilians, yet here we are.

Not throwing a tantrum on Twitter is much easier than conducting any kind of military operation.

Someone oughta tell that to Prigozhin!

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Post by libealistand »

eusto wrote: post #159
ben_w wrote: post #94

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I'm not a free speech absolutist[0], but if there's one speech one ought to be free to do, it's to write mean things about a government body (or deals with one) in a country that has a constitutional right to free speech. [0] neither is the US, despite what it says; I am however a free-speech maximalist , and the differences between these positions includes but is not limited to acknowledging that some speech chills…

I'm assuming the "fuck you" was the one that fired her. However you choose to understand free speech, being needlessly rude as a media representative of a company should get you fired.

Given the tweets and the article, it's fair to assume that this is not the first time the person has exhibited such behavior and this was just the last drip overflowing the bucket.

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Post by computerfriend »

newaccount74 wrote: post #252
constantly wrote: post #95

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If you maliciously and repeatedly attack people on Twitter, customers no less, while at a work conference on work’s dime then you belong in kindergarten, not having a professional job. Thankfully VMWare fixed that.

Look up the person OP insulted: https://www.oxebridge.com/emma/op-ed-usafs-chaillan-knausenb... OP was fired for stepping on the toes of a thin skinned official with a good network.

> Access from your Country was disabled by the administrator.

Guess I'll never know.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by Apocryphon »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #330
Apocryphon wrote: post #329

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Not even Hacker News can avoid those topics these days, especially politics. The world is Twitter now, partly because of Twitter.

Pretty easy to just not engage on those topics. Just don't comment.

And yet, here we both are.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by libealistand »

revelio wrote: post #248
ben_w wrote: post #94

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I'm not a free speech absolutist[0], but if there's one speech one ought to be free to do, it's to write mean things about a government body (or deals with one) in a country that has a constitutional right to free speech. [0] neither is the US, despite what it says; I am however a free-speech maximalist , and the differences between these positions includes but is not limited to acknowledging that some speech chills…

> some speech chills other speech Is this not just a way to say "my speech is free speech and protected, your speech is hate speech and should be banned"?

Society needs a general a priori agreement about what's ok and what's not. If people get to make up the rules on the spot then obviously you will just get into this kind of conflict. (This includes "you hurt my feelings".)

I'm all for banning threats and other speech that's illegal. But once a line is drawn it's in everybody's interest to defend it in either direction. Remember that everything you demand to be banned can be used against your cause at a later point. Similar with every accusation you want to be able to utter.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by Gareth321 »

Osmose wrote: post #274
Gareth321 wrote: post #152

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> Do you realize you are all reinforcing that business must come always first before personal expression? But it must. If an employer at Starbucks signs off every order with “Heil Hitler,” we should expect them to be fired. Companies don’t have to afford employees free speech when they are on company time.

There already are protected forms of speech in the workplace, including discussion of workplace safety, unionizing, as well as speaking out against harassment and discrimination. And the NLRB has already ruled that some of those are protected even when made on social media, even if it's alongside profainty[1]. Perhaps criticism of the government or government representatives should be added to the list? [1] National…

Fair opinion. I might agree, but the manner of this “disagreement” was clearly outside the bounds of any reasonable code of conduct. I would not support such a law if it permitted workplaces to turn into places where screaming obscenities at each other over government policies were considered protect speech.

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Post by sirl1on »

xena wrote: post #300
revelio wrote: post #265

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[flagged]

Hi, I use pony/anime/furry avatars at work and my blog is loved on this website for its technical content and innovative use of the Socratic method. People like me exist.

Care to share your blog?

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by galkk »

newaccount74 wrote: post #322
tzekid wrote: post #310

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That's disingenuous of you. This article sparks conversations about workplace boundaries and corpo vs personal ethics and rights, as can be clearly seen by the other comments.

Yeah, unfortunately important topics like these are typically flagged on HN and quickly disappear from the front page. I understand why -- they tend to lead to flamewars. But I'm not sure if hiding issues like this is a good choice. (Aside: I think it's telling that the apparent majority on HN is on Goliaths side in this case. Usually we're more on the side of the underdog. I wonder if that's just the latent misogyny…

Could it be nothing of that but disregard for toxic behavior of op who either doesn’t have clue about tone, causes and consequences of the actions or refuses to own it.

With the way how the post is written, and I find the end especially toxic, with points about trump era, throwing shade on a guy with hints of racism, I cannot see that this was just some unfortunate misunderstanding.

omg your possible explanations: misoginy, ponies, anti left - you seem to forgot to add transphobia and tech bros to the same sentence to have flesh royal

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by wiseowise »

spondylosaurus wrote: post #216
wiseowise wrote: post #191

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Do you really want to play the game? > The Department of Defense provides the military forces needed to deter war and ensure our nation's security. You very well understand what I mean. If your stance is anything military - that’s fine, but your arguments are straw and you know that.

National security isn't political???

Mentioning national security is not political.
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