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Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by Apocryphon »

supriyo-biswas wrote: post #320
tzekid wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's disingenuous of you. This article sparks conversations about workplace boundaries and corpo vs personal ethics and rights, as can be clearly seen by the other comments.

We agree on the fact that it does spark conversation, I’m just not sure whether it’s the right kind of conversation for this place.

The "no politics on HN" rule/convention died out around 2016 or so. Turns out even though Hacker News used to not believe in politics, politics believes in hackers. And everything about this story is actually about hackers, rather than a random political story like many highly-discussed articles as of late.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by newaccount74 »

tzekid wrote: post #310
supriyo-biswas wrote: post #175

This has been upvoted by many people on HN, so I guess it has some value for folks here, but can anyone enlighten me as to how this outrage porn is supposed to result in curious conversation? (For anyone wondering, I flagged it.)

That's disingenuous of you. This article sparks conversations about workplace boundaries and corpo vs personal ethics and rights, as can be clearly seen by the other comments.

Yeah, unfortunately important topics like these are typically flagged on HN and quickly disappear from the front page.

I understand why -- they tend to lead to flamewars. But I'm not sure if hiding issues like this is a good choice.

(Aside: I think it's telling that the apparent majority on HN is on Goliaths side in this case. Usually we're more on the side of the underdog. I wonder if that's just the latent misogyny showing, or if it's because OP is left leaning, or because of the pink homepage with the ponies.)

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by lelanthran »

The_Amp_Walrus wrote: post #13

why does employer not say "dear whoever, this employee is clearly an idiot, and whatever they say on their private twitter does not represent our views" seems easier than firing someone

> why does employer not say "dear whoever, this employee is clearly an idiot, and whatever they say on their private twitter does not represent our views"

Because:

1. It wasn't private, it was public and tagged the subject of the abuse directly.

2. "This employee" was on company time and actively representing the company at the time.

It doesn't matter what role you are, you are always at risk of getting fired if you embarrass your employer.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by subsistence234 »

grimgoldgo wrote: post #197
wiseowise wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re free to say funny words on twitter, they’re free to fire you for it. Everyone wins. Or you think you can be obnoxious clown without repercussions?

> Or you think you can be obnoxious clown without repercussions? Seems to be working for Elon, tbh.

If you're the owner of your company, the company won't fire you. You can still harm your company (and thereby yourself) by attacking your biggest customers on social media.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by weeeeelp »

morelisp wrote: post #58
King-Aaron wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel that it's kind of odd that you question this. Acting with professionalism isn't all that hard.

Neither is not bombing civilians, yet here we are.

Not throwing a tantrum on Twitter is much easier than conducting any kind of military operation.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by subsistence234 »

Apocryphon wrote: post #179
wiseowise wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you cannot deal with people bringing their true identities to the job, you are free to choose another industry to work in. I don’t know, looks like VMWare found another way to deal with it.

They dealt with problematic tweets, not an "edgy fursona."

Yup. Everyone in the office loves edgy fart-porn childrens-cartoon fursonas who have regular consent-accidents.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by nextlevelwizard »

camillomiller wrote: post #77
King-Aaron wrote: post #18

> Being as I’m not an idiot Well, I'm afraid to say after reading this, I have to disagree. Common sense would have made me consider not posting an inflammatory tweet like that, to be perfectly honest.

Do you realize you are all reinforcing that business must come always first before personal expression? It is factual that one person was touting instruments of war, but by most comments here that’s seen as “the right” because it’s representing “business”. What you’re all saying implicitly is that the rights of a corporate employer to make money are always above the freedom to personal expression, by contract, by law…

How is this any different than someone coming to your business and starting to yell at you, because they don't agree with your political views?

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by Apocryphon »

nextlevelwizard wrote: post #327

Not being able to comply with “Avoid topics involving age, sex, race, religion, ethnicity, politics or disabilities.” is pretty odd, but then again I guess this is your average Twitter user.

Not even Hacker News can avoid those topics these days, especially politics. The world is Twitter now, partly because of Twitter.

Re: That Time I Posted Myself Out Of a Job

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Post by nextlevelwizard »

Apocryphon wrote: post #329
nextlevelwizard wrote: post #327

Not being able to comply with “Avoid topics involving age, sex, race, religion, ethnicity, politics or disabilities.” is pretty odd, but then again I guess this is your average Twitter user.

Not even Hacker News can avoid those topics these days, especially politics. The world is Twitter now, partly because of Twitter.

Pretty easy to just not engage on those topics. Just don't comment.
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