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Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by amalgamated_inc »

mint2 wrote: post #326
amalgamated_inc wrote: post #309

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Yes

I like how regulations got rid of lead paint, got rid of LA’s pea soup smog, stopped rivers from being so polluted they’d catch fire, and brought back the American eagle. Just a few examples. a reactionary “all regulation bad” view is too simplistic and doesn’t make for good discourses. but what do I know, I must be biased because I’m not a fan of asbestos.

If you hate freedom so much, why don't you move to North Korea? I hear their government is real good at regulations.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by fnovd »

phpisthebest wrote: post #295
fnovd wrote: post #97

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Because the company you are buying from what doing the minimum to achieve the "Pasture Raised Organic" label, which is not a very high bar. These laws impact them just as much as the "budget eggs". To be a "free-range" or "pasture-raised" chicken you simply need access to the outdoors. So, these animals are kept in the same cramped, feces-filled hothouses that the "budget chickens" are, but there's a tiny hole in the…

That is true for Free Range which is basically meaning less, but Free Range is not the same as Pasture Raised Normally Pasture Raised means - at least 1.8 square feet of indoor floor space each - continuous access to a vegetation-covered outdoor area in which to roam and forage - at least 4 square feet of outdoor space each - access to perching and nesting boxes I buy from Small Farms also...

They're all basically the same. Different labeling groups have different requirements, it doesn't really matter. The fact of the matter is that the business is going to do whatever it takes to make as much money as possible, and that means less space and freedom for the animals. You can come up with as many requirements as you want, but the egg producers, like any business, will do as little as they possibly can do to meet them. It's just not possible to treat these animals with empathy when your job is to take from them as much as you can while giving them as little as you can.

As bare as these requirements are, they only exist because without them there is literally no reason to try. And even with them, there is only the incentive to legally meet the requirements, nothing else. The labels are for us, not the chickens.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by customname »

roflyear wrote: post #75
rexreed wrote: post #48

Cream prices have more than doubled. At Target, the 32oz Heavy Cream that was $2.99 in Oct 2021 is now $6.49. And there's a cream shortage in any case. Inflation and supply chain issues.

Vegan options haven't gone up in price (much).

You well eat ze bugs and be happy.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by mint2 »

amalgamated_inc wrote: post #331
mint2 wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like how regulations got rid of lead paint, got rid of LA’s pea soup smog, stopped rivers from being so polluted they’d catch fire, and brought back the American eagle. Just a few examples. a reactionary “all regulation bad” view is too simplistic and doesn’t make for good discourses. but what do I know, I must be biased because I’m not a fan of asbestos.

If you hate freedom so much, why don't you move to North Korea? I hear their government is real good at regulations.

Actually thats not correct. even if they have environmental regs on paper countries like that don’t have them in practice due to lack of enforcement.

What is the purpose of those comments?

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

WalterBright wrote: post #315
WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #284

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> I've heard the same thing, and I usually respond with prices of decent, filling food at the grocery store - like potatoes, a can of beans, a bag of apples, etc. As for cooking, you can buy a used microwave at the thrift store for about what a soft taco costs at Taco Time. You may want to factor in that the 20 minutes they have to acquire and prep a meal is already coming out of the 6 hours they have allocated for s…

Takes me 2 minutes to microwave a $2 can of chili. The can is worth about 2 meals. The trip to the store, once a week. Driving to Taco Time every day takes time, gas, and costs $20 for a meal. Ironically, I microwave meals and such not because I'm poor, but to save time. I dislike going to restaurants and even McBurger because it takes too much time. Another meal I like takes less than a minute. Pour some oats in a b…

These sound like things that can be done by someone who has resources when and where they need them.

They do not sound like something that can be done consistently by someone without regular transportation or pay.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by User23 »

mint2 wrote: post #334
amalgamated_inc wrote: post #331

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If you hate freedom so much, why don't you move to North Korea? I hear their government is real good at regulations.

Actually thats not correct. even if they have environmental regs on paper countries like that don’t have them in practice due to lack of enforcement. What is the purpose of those comments?

I assume it was to make me laugh, which it did. Nobody actually thinks "regulations are bad." The point that is being humorously made is that these things have significant trade-offs and you're pretending not to get it. And I have to compliment you on playing the straight man in the exchange, it wouldn't have been nearly so funny without your participation!

We saw the same thing in early LAN engineering when Ethernet fought it out with Token Ring. Oversimplifying a bit: Token Ring provided a highly regulated guaranteed delivery protocol with lots of complexity and overhead and Ethernet just spurted packets out onto the wire and let the nodes figure out collisions. Can you guess which one is considerably more performant and easier to implement? Even so, Ethernet still has plenty of rules and complexity, just considerably less than Token Ring.

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Post by legerdemain »

dgoldstein0 wrote: post #322
legerdemain wrote: post #272

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Apples don't contribute much to a healthy diet: they're sweet, acidic enough to damage tooth enamel, and packed with fructose. You'd be much better off leaving fruit out of your diet and occasionally treating yourself to a little bit of brown rice or raw broccoli in between your meals of beans and potatoes.

Apples are a lot healthier than the same amount of fructose in isolation. they have a huge amount of fiber, which is both filling and good for your microbiome. And I'd bet on some good vitamin content though I'm not sure which off the top of my head. Some fruits may be not much better than candy in that the sugar can metabolize quickly, but apples aren't one of those despite their fructose content.

One hundred grams of apples (with skin) consists of 86 grams of water and 10.5 grams of sugar (mostly fructose), 2.5 grams of fiber, and negligible everything else. The only vitamin present in apples in non-trivial quantity is vitamin C.

There is as much protein in broccoli as there is fiber in apples.

To get your daily suggested intake of fiber (30 grams), you'd need to eat almost three pounds of apples a day.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by bigtex »

SECProto wrote: post #159
bigtex wrote: post #36

My wife has a cottage baking business and would buy 15 dozen eggs from Costco Business Center. Already high, a few months back in cost about $45 for the box. Just last week it was $110. She doesn't recall but it fairly certain the box was between $20-30 before inflation hit. However she said they had chicken legs that were .49/lb which is a great price but hard to reconcile with the narrative that avian flu is the ca…

> 15 dozen eggs from Costco Business Center. [...] Just last week it was $110. Might I suggest buying eggs from a normal grocery store or other alternative source? That's $7.33 per dozen and unless you have some very unusual situation, a dozen eggs can be had for less than half that price at a grocery store.

She did not buy it at that price, but follows a Facebook Costco group that shared the information.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by ihaveabeardnow »

Damogran6 wrote: post #191
SECProto wrote: post #159

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> 15 dozen eggs from Costco Business Center. [...] Just last week it was $110. Might I suggest buying eggs from a normal grocery store or other alternative source? That's $7.33 per dozen and unless you have some very unusual situation, a dozen eggs can be had for less than half that price at a grocery store.

Possibly availabilty, in our Denver Suburb, Kroeger and Walmart shelves are nearly always bare. We've had to resort to buying 5 dozen at a time at our Costco...which I don't like, because it takes awhile to get through them.

not sure what 'awhile' is for you, but you can freeze them if needed. just beat the eggs in a container, and stash away in the freezer.
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