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Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by saurik »

themitigating wrote: post #234
umvi wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this is true, shouldn't there be consequences for NAACP? Surely accepting cash to weaponize racism is (or should be) illegal?

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1) The user you are trying so hard to catch in some contradiction seems to be arguing against the control large platforms have to effectively police speech into a box more narrow than the law, and (looking only at the provided snippets) does not seem to claim that the law can't or shouldn't provide some boundaries itself. Like, I don't know this user's opinion on whether truth in advertising laws are legitimate, only about whether it makes sense for Twitter / Facebook to be the ones who get to make the decision. In this case, they are asking why it isn't illegal, not why it isn't randomly being self-limited by the Internet-age speech carriers.

2) Even if the user quoted were "inconsistent" in that way--and because of #1 I don't think it is, but I want to note why I think your comment isn't as smart as you are hoping it is in more detail--one could easily take the comment to be born out of frustration at a world that decides lots of things should be forbidden but somehow not this one, whether coming from a place of sincerity or simply sarcasm: in a world where somehow there are a ton of things people can't say, why can they say this? A lot of times, I see people try to point out hypocrisy in online communication and in fact the two parties are just talking past each other, using the other's attempt to call out hypocrisy as a way to judge their position, ignoring that there are easier explanations.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by mullingitover »

At Trader Joe's the eggs have not budged on price, however the supply is limited. If you want eggs, you have to get there within an hour of opening, and you're limited to 2 dozen per person. They're likely paying the same amount wholesale and simply getting fewer eggs to sell for retail.

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Post by brewdad »

bigtex wrote: post #36

My wife has a cottage baking business and would buy 15 dozen eggs from Costco Business Center. Already high, a few months back in cost about $45 for the box. Just last week it was $110. She doesn't recall but it fairly certain the box was between $20-30 before inflation hit. However she said they had chicken legs that were .49/lb which is a great price but hard to reconcile with the narrative that avian flu is the ca…

If the chickens are dying from avian flu, they can still be consumed as food assuming they live long enough to develop but you will miss out on the ongoing egg production of the laying hens.

Healthy or not, a chicken can only give it's two wings once. Laying hens produce eggs repeatedly for as long as their bodies allow.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

WalterBright wrote: post #241
ar_lan wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Coke's position was clear: soda is one of the cheapest ways to get calories - a flagrantly inaccurate statement when factoring in the health consequences. I'm always amazed at how many people flat out get angry with me when I say fast food is simply not cheaper than cooking yourself, provided you have a kitchen. I'm consistently told that that level of thinking is necessarily classist (and therefore racist), becaus…

I've heard the same thing, and I usually respond with prices of decent, filling food at the grocery store - like potatoes, a can of beans, a bag of apples, etc. As for cooking, you can buy a used microwave at the thrift store for about what a soft taco costs at Taco Time.

> I've heard the same thing, and I usually respond with prices of decent, filling food at the grocery store - like potatoes, a can of beans, a bag of apples, etc. As for cooking, you can buy a used microwave at the thrift store for about what a soft taco costs at Taco Time.

You may want to factor in that the 20 minutes they have to acquire and prep a meal is already coming out of the 6 hours they have allocated for sleep.

Having done a decade of hunger-level poverty, I found it surprising busy.

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Post by phaedryx »

SECProto wrote: post #159
bigtex wrote: post #36

My wife has a cottage baking business and would buy 15 dozen eggs from Costco Business Center. Already high, a few months back in cost about $45 for the box. Just last week it was $110. She doesn't recall but it fairly certain the box was between $20-30 before inflation hit. However she said they had chicken legs that were .49/lb which is a great price but hard to reconcile with the narrative that avian flu is the ca…

> 15 dozen eggs from Costco Business Center. [...] Just last week it was $110. Might I suggest buying eggs from a normal grocery store or other alternative source? That's $7.33 per dozen and unless you have some very unusual situation, a dozen eggs can be had for less than half that price at a grocery store.

That's about the price for a dozen eggs at all of the grocery stores around me right now.

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Post by brewdad »

paxys wrote: post #277
bigtex wrote: post #36

My wife has a cottage baking business and would buy 15 dozen eggs from Costco Business Center. Already high, a few months back in cost about $45 for the box. Just last week it was $110. She doesn't recall but it fairly certain the box was between $20-30 before inflation hit. However she said they had chicken legs that were .49/lb which is a great price but hard to reconcile with the narrative that avian flu is the ca…

I buy a dozen eggs for $3-5 in the middle of San Francisco. If your wife is paying double that, that too for bulk orders, then she is definitely doing something wrong. She can literally shop at Whole Foods and save money.

I've seen egg prices all over the place in my area. Ironically, the high end stores seem to have lower egg prices right now. I'm guessing the huge industrial type farms are getting hit hardest while the smaller farms, offering true free-range and other marketing gimmicks are largely business as usual.

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Post by zackmorris »

bottlepalm wrote: post #167

$40,000 for every man, woman and child was printed for corona stimulus. $13 trillion total. If you're wondering why all this inflation happened, it's pretty simple cause and effect.

I did a quick search and I think you might be getting your information from articles like this:

https://fee.org/articles/federal-covid-spending-will-cost-41...

Fact check:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2022/04/14/fac...

https://theconversation.com/joe-bidens-us-1-9-trillion-stimu...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/03/11/us/how-covid-...

It looks like Biden's contribution is about $2 trillion to families and individuals. Counting the previous administration: another $2 trillion to businesses, $1 trillion to state and local, and $1 trillion to healthcare and other programs, for about $5-6 trillion total.

Worst case, that's about $18,000 per capita for 332 million people in the US. Best case, more like $6,000, since much of the stimulus was in the form of payroll loans that businesses were supposed to pay back, although much of that has been forgiven. Without knowing more details, the best I can estimate is the logarithmic mean, which is about $11,000. Spread over 3 years, that's just under $4,000 per capita per year.

Note that this is less than the $3,000 per year that I got in Pell grants to attend college in the late 90s, when money was worth about twice what it's worth today. At a $23 trillion US GDP, there's $70,000 per capita to play with, so $4,000 extra per year would raise per capita income by 5.7%. High yes, but not much higher than a typical 3% inflation. Especially when much of the world was out of work for a year or two during the pandemic.

The real culprit is corporate price gouging and speculation:

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/08/26/all-us-are-payi...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/25/inflat...

I noticed that Google and even DuckDuckGo have ranked this information so low that hysterical headlines totally dominate search results. It will be interesting to see how investigative journalism traces these knee-jerk headlines to their sources. Although I doubt that any titans of industry or politicians will be unmasked before the next election.

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Post by tzs »

gtk40 wrote: post #13

I'm curious how Costco is weathering the storm better than others. Typically Aldi is the cheapest place for me to buy eggs, but they're almost $5 a dozen for basic eggs. I've seen even more at other grocery stores (Publix was several dollars more a dozen). The cage free eggs were $7/2 dozen ($3.50/dozen) earlier this week at Costco. I'm in the Southeastern US in a suburb of a major city.

Much of the rise seems to be caused by avian flu resulting in the deaths of about 10% of chickens in the US. That would not be a uniform 10% at every farm.

Some farms will have lost a lot more and some will have lost less or none.

I think that most retailers have contracts with a specific set of farms to supply those eggs, which will only be a small subset of all egg farms.

It could simply be that the farms Costco has contracts with happen to mostly be ones that haven't been hit hard with avian flu.

Re: Eggs are 60% more expensive than last year in the US

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

snapcaster wrote: post #276
steve_adams_86 wrote: post #261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that the cholesterol factor seems pretty well debunked, but I think the mistake originally appeared because dietary cholesterol is typically present with saturated and trans fats. These are known to typically function as a lever for blood lipid levels. If you eat them, your blood lipids will temporarily rise and gradually fall. The fact that this doesn’t become chronic for you seems abnormal (but great), and…

Thanks for the thoughtful response >If you were getting that much egg and beef from McDonald’s you would likely be buried in the ground by now. This is my hunch too, when i really got serious about my diet and health I was worried eating all these eggs and meat was going to cause issues so made sure to get blood tests etc. This sort of started me down the rabbit hole of realizing that almost every single thing I had…

Yeah, I absolutely share your concern.

There are so many internal and external forces pushing us to take the immediately gratifying path of least resistance.

We already know (and have known for decades) that a diet including mostly whole foods based around mostly plants seems to yield populations with far less disease and longer lifespans. It may not fit everyone, but it would certainly work for most people currently suffering. We don’t need to know more about gut flora and protective enzymes to help them; we need to stop hurting them with an overly permissive health industry and sabotaging food processing industry. We’ve had generations of normalizing this stuff. We have intelligent people talking about how statins are game changers and various weight loss drugs are revolutionary. It’s a sort of tragedy to me that we aren’t focused on making these things redundant and eliminating the root problem. It’s like we’ve simply accepted excess and the innate self-abuse of our lifestyles.

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