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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by WriterGuy2021 »

trts wrote: post #296

The dislike button on YouTube videos is one of the few remaining signals that what you are seeing is propaganda. It hadn't occurred to me that this would happen (although it seems obvious) and it is unexpectedly frightening to me. I suppose the fallback will be videos with comments enabled, where people can 'like' a comment who is saying something common sense and reasonable in response to the content.

It's a signal that people don't like what they are hearing. If the propaganda aligns with their interests, the majority will like it. It's not a good signal for gauging propaganda in my opinion.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by emkoemko »

trts wrote: post #296

The dislike button on YouTube videos is one of the few remaining signals that what you are seeing is propaganda. It hadn't occurred to me that this would happen (although it seems obvious) and it is unexpectedly frightening to me. I suppose the fallback will be videos with comments enabled, where people can 'like' a comment who is saying something common sense and reasonable in response to the content.

video creator can delete comments....

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by varispeed »

What's next? Extra views for underrepresented YouTubers? Ad click air drops?

Maybe if Google wants to do something good, they should stop avoiding paying right amount of tax for starters?

How about anti-competitive behaviour?

The fake virtue signalling from big co is nauseating...

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by cgriswald »

winternett wrote: post #218
louissan wrote: post #110

I find this pathetic. As if the removal of the "dislike button" helps in any way, shape or form to create a more "inclusive" environment. This reeks of the silencing of what is perceived as dissident voices, is all. I've personally never hit a like or dislike button in my life, never will ... but found it interesting as a viewer to see the ratio. Even knowing this ratio is probably at least partially the outcome of b…

It's the exact same move that reddit made years ago, and it enabled a new era of online brigading and fake credibility/popularity for content shown on pages. If you can't see downvotes on content, there is no way of determining how misleading the content may be. It also disguises cases where a creator may be getting harassed or bullied by others. The beginning of the end of being able to trust YouTube stats (as if th…

> If you can't see downvotes on content, there is no way of determining how misleading the content may be.

There are many ways of doing so, with their own pros, cons, and time requirements. At best you're losing a relatively low quality way of quickly filtering out some videos.

> It also disguises cases where a creator may be getting harassed or bullied by others.

You seem to want it both ways. It is judging videos by this ratio that allows the harassment to have an effect.

There may also be an emotional component to it; a private downvote likely stings a lot less than a public one. It prevents people from piling on or joining in the harassment. And it can allow YouTube to shadowban harassing accounts.

For the people who could actually affect change, it hides nothing. YouTube and the creator both get to see the numbers, and in extreme cases, they'd be available for law enforcement.

> The beginning of the end of being able to trust YouTube stats (as if that wasn't already an issue).

These stats were never trustworthy for viewers.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by emkoemko »

summerlight wrote: post #263

As usual, HN users are making lots of interesting assumptions (some comments to a conspiracy level) on the intention here... But in the reality, there are many smaller creators who is frequently being harassed by trolls (have you heard about those young Chinese patriots trolling over Korean and Japanese channels?) and one of their tool is the dislike button. And creators have been complaining about this for many year…

this ain't the solution.... because some people where effected we need to disable a feature used by everyone ? now what? we have to waste time watching a video to find out that it teaches your bs? flat earth is now 5k likes, Earth is now flat guys.. no dissent

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by [deleted] »

louissan wrote: post #110

I find this pathetic. As if the removal of the "dislike button" helps in any way, shape or form to create a more "inclusive" environment. This reeks of the silencing of what is perceived as dissident voices, is all. I've personally never hit a like or dislike button in my life, never will ... but found it interesting as a viewer to see the ratio. Even knowing this ratio is probably at least partially the outcome of b…

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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by pessimizer »

UweSchmidt wrote: post #273
gitpusher wrote: post #95

RIP to one of my favorite YouTube comment formats: > " of people "

People objecting to the idea that someone might have pressed the dislike button for whatever reason, unable to handle the mild cognitive dissonance of divergent opinions always stood in stark contrast to the old mantra that graced the signatures of slashdot and other forum comments: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

I think you're misinterpreting as psychological turmoil what is actually light anonymous fun being made of people's tastes in service of a punchline.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by [deleted] »

winternett wrote: post #218
louissan wrote: post #110

I find this pathetic. As if the removal of the "dislike button" helps in any way, shape or form to create a more "inclusive" environment. This reeks of the silencing of what is perceived as dissident voices, is all. I've personally never hit a like or dislike button in my life, never will ... but found it interesting as a viewer to see the ratio. Even knowing this ratio is probably at least partially the outcome of b…

It's the exact same move that reddit made years ago, and it enabled a new era of online brigading and fake credibility/popularity for content shown on pages. If you can't see downvotes on content, there is no way of determining how misleading the content may be. It also disguises cases where a creator may be getting harassed or bullied by others. The beginning of the end of being able to trust YouTube stats (as if th…

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