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Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by madengr »

colinmhayes wrote: post #133
busymom0 wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gun control is over in Virginia at least. The Lt. Governor's election campaign was her at a gun range. And Governor Youngkin is also pro-2A. When 25.8% of the shootings are coming from Chicago which has just 0.8% population, maybe it's time to focus on gangs instead of making life miserable for legal gun owners.

Democrats still control the senate in virginia so I'm not sure gun control is over. Biased because I live in Chicago, but it's legitimately impossible to stop gangs as long as it's possible to get a gun. As soon as someone is arrested there are 5 kids ready to take their place. The only solutions to gun violence here are end poverty or stop guns from out of state from entering the city.

Let the gang members kill each other; good riddance.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by caeril »

tootie wrote: post #109
post_break wrote: post #77

I find this part hilarious "Durr said he entered the race after being denied a concealed carry permit despite having a clean record." So the state with one of the most strict gun laws burns someone, and now he's probably going to win. I wonder if he's going to start turning screws to get their permit issue laws changed. Did you know in NJ you can not posses hollow point bullets? You can go to jail. 18 months in priso…

It's so bonkers. America has the most unfettered gun ownership laws in the developed world by a mile and somehow it's still a political wedge that can outweigh healthcare, fair taxation, education.

Yes, it's weird that infringement of the fundamental right to self-defense is taken more seriously than things that are not fundamental rights.

Weirdest thing I've ever seen. Those wacky Americans and their crazy belief in liberty, or like, not wanting to be a victim of democide.

Say what you want about Hitler and his whole disarming-the-Jews thing, but healthcare for everyone else was pretty top-notch.

And if you ever feel sad for all the people murdered by Stalin after being disarmed, just remember how good the USSR mathematics program was.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by sjg007 »

post_break wrote: post #104
yeuxardents wrote: post #97

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Thats not exactly correct. You can own hollow points in NJ, but you may only transport them from place of purchase to your home, or from your home directly to the range where you intend to shoot them, or from range back to home. It is most certainly illegal to use hollow points in any instance in a case of self defense, even if the self defense is warranted.

If that's the case, it's still completely dumb. If you shoot someone in self defense with ball ammo it's definitely going to over penetrate and keep going possibly hitting anyone or anything behind the threat. And what happens if you are driving from the range and experience a flat tire, have to use the restroom, an emergency where you need to go somewhere else. Bad laws.

Hollow points are more destructive and dangerous to the person who was shot. They cause so much internal damage that the person will not survive a wound that may have been survivable otherwise. They are banned by the Geneva convention.

Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by colinmhayes »

busymom0 wrote: post #290
colinmhayes wrote: post #184

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> Stop letting them use gun control to ignore the underlying issues in the community. I'm glad we agree that poverty is the root cause of gun violence, but realizing that does nothing to stop gun violence. Poverty isn't something that can be solved with the snap of a finger, although I certainly think we are on the right track. What do you think we should do to stop gun violence in the mean time? Nothing is a valid a…

The problem isn't simply about poverty/money or racism or past inequities, it's about corruption, gangs, fatherlessness, teacher unions and lack of school choice. Chicago has been fully one party ruled since 1931. Baltimore since 1963, Detroit since 1962 etc and so on. Why has none of the lives improved in these cities and they keep having gang problems? If Chicago hasn't been able to fix anything for almost a centur…

> Why has none of the lives improved in these cities and they keep having gang problems?

Because the people are still poor?

> lack of school choice.

Most of the poor kids here are in charter schools.

> Fatherlessness

Agreed this is a major problem, it's mostly caused by poverty.

> corruption

Absolutely agree this is a huge problem. We tried to solve it by electing an outsider mayor, everyone hates her because she can't get anything done due to obstruction from corrupt politicians. Even if we ended corruption tomorrow, that would only move the end of poverty from many decades away to a few less decades away, not really a solution to gun violence.

> gangs

We arrested all the gang leaders. Now the gangs are just 10 dudes who went to elementary school together. Without leadership there is no one to stop them from shooting each other, it has made things quite a bit worse imo. As I said it isn't possible to just end gangs, there are always new people to fill the power vacuum.

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Post by sjg007 »

busymom0 wrote: post #95
post_break wrote: post #77

I find this part hilarious "Durr said he entered the race after being denied a concealed carry permit despite having a clean record." So the state with one of the most strict gun laws burns someone, and now he's probably going to win. I wonder if he's going to start turning screws to get their permit issue laws changed. Did you know in NJ you can not posses hollow point bullets? You can go to jail. 18 months in priso…

Gun control is over in Virginia at least. The Lt. Governor's election campaign was her at a gun range. And Governor Youngkin is also pro-2A. When 25.8% of the shootings are coming from Chicago which has just 0.8% population, maybe it's time to focus on gangs instead of making life miserable for legal gun owners.

Chicago ain’t in Virginia.

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Post by adolph »

post_break wrote: post #77

I find this part hilarious "Durr said he entered the race after being denied a concealed carry permit despite having a clean record." So the state with one of the most strict gun laws burns someone, and now he's probably going to win. I wonder if he's going to start turning screws to get their permit issue laws changed. Did you know in NJ you can not posses hollow point bullets? You can go to jail. 18 months in priso…

2014: Single Mom Who Admitted to Bringing Legal Gun into NJ Now Facing 11+ Years in Prison

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Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by moffkalast »

bingohbangoh wrote: post #261
moffkalast wrote: post #253

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Well running as a republican would mean he's a member of and supports the republican party, is that not how that works? Otherwise one would run as an independent. If you associate yourself with a group that's known to be scum then that will reflect badly on you regardless of your actual character.

The Republican party, much like the Democratic party, is a wide tent with many people. Local races involve a lot more complicated characters. You'd run as Republican because they're the default alternative choice in a lot of places. Or you could lose and say its on principle I guess.

Sure, a wide tent with many people that seem to be fine with an insurrection, gerrymandering and throwing democracy under the bus every possible chance given. It's not a race you're born into, it's a centralized entity you can chose to be a part of.

I'm sorry, after the recent few years they've lost all remaining credibility.

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Post by sjg007 »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #218
subsubzero wrote: post #172

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You take guns away and they use knives and cleavers. Look to London for what would happen with guns being banned. The solution is to not ban an object but provide opportunities for people. Jobs, education, paths that pave roads to a career. Nothing drives more people to crime than feeling like they are in a hopeless situation.

Are you seriously suggesting we compare the deaths (you can include injuries if you like) from guns in the US with those caused by knives in the UK? Do you understand how this comparison is going to come out?

They don’t understand it and always present false equivalences as fact.

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Post by klyrs »

kelnos wrote: post #308
klyrs wrote: post #247

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That's up to the police to decide. If they don't like a law, they don't enforce it.

Selective enforcement is not a good outcome. Any police officer who doesn't enforce a law because they don't like it should be fired.

Not saying it's a good outcome, but in my lifetime, that's what I've learned to expect. If the chief doesn't like the law either, who is going to fire the officer?
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