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Re: Truck driver leads NJ Senate president after spending $153 on campaign

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Post by BuyMyBitcoins »

ejstronge wrote: post #222
BuyMyBitcoins wrote: post #173

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We’ve got some pretty convincing evidence of corruption and election fraud here. BUT, rest assured this is extremely rare and these same people wouldn’t dare tamper with any other kind of election. Nor would this happen anywhere else in the United States. Anyone who asserts an election was subject to fraud is attacking democracy itself. /s

> Anyone who asserts an election was subject to fraud is attacking democracy itself. /s I trust you are referring to problems with the 2020 election? I would appreciate learning what analogies you see between mob-like coercion and the election

Yes, for the most part. I do not think the doubts and suspicious anomalies are new or unique to the 2020 election, though.

As for the mob-like coercion, I don’t think there was this same kind of intimidation going on in 2020. I was using this concrete example of election fraud to refute the oft-touted assertion that voter fraud is vanishingly rare in the United States, and, it is never serious enough to affect an election.

In a naïve way I hope it opens the door to people being willing to accept the idea that if fraud can happen in big corrupt cities, it can happen elsewhere and we should tighten up our oversight laws.

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Post by donarb »

koolba wrote: post #103
jamroom wrote: post #70

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Mail in voting is still secret ballot - you have an internal "secrecy sleeve" that is in turn mailed in an outer envelope. The outer envelope signature is compared to the signature on file, and then the internal envelope is removed but is not opened in the same location. https://www.sos.wa.gov/_assets/elections/wa_vbm.pdf https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/politics/barr-secret-vote-fac...

That doesn't stop a determined group of canvassers from going door to door and pressuring people to fill out their ballots on the spot while they wait on their doorstep. It's also a perfect time to offer a bribe or incentive for a speedy completion. There's no way that any form of remote ballot is going to be as secure as doing it in person. It's just not possible because you will never know the provenance. Like most…

If there were canvassers knocking on doors and offering bribes for ballots you would hear about it here in Washington state. People here take their voting rights seriously.

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Post by moffkalast »

bingohbangoh wrote: post #229
umvi wrote: post #2

Any (relatively) unbiased sources that explain how NJ got into this predicament? Just current leadership being out of touch with the wants/needs of NJ citizens?

Not trying to dunk, but comments like this -- assuming that a blue collar, republican challenger is automatically bad -- says a lot more about the OP than it does about the situation.

Well running as a republican would mean he's a member of and supports the republican party, is that not how that works? Otherwise one would run as an independent.

If you associate yourself with a group that's known to be scum then that will reflect badly on you regardless of your actual character.

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Post by PaulDavisThe1st »

twofornone wrote: post #206
soperj wrote: post #132

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You say that like the war on drugs is the solution? Do you think that any of these people don't use drugs because it's a crime? It's just making their life worse.

As I've gotten older I've realized that there's something to be said for the discouraging effect that laws have on certain behaviors. Yes, people are still going to do drugs if they're illegal; but some proportion of the population is less likely to take the risk. Is it enough to justify the drug war? Maybe not. But I don't think it's quite as cut an dry as "legalize all drugs to end drug abuse" or "ban all drugs to…

https://transformdrugs.org/blog/drug-decriminalisation-in-po...

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Post by psadauskas »

voz_ wrote: post #130
vkou wrote: post #84

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Seattle has always been a socially liberal, bend-over-backwards for business town. It's how it can legalize marijuana and magic mushrooms, while having 11,000 people living in tents and homeless shelters. Unsurprisingly, since nobody likes seeing tents in city parks, and by the I-5 on-ramps, the city voted for a slate of politicians that will... Maintain the status quo. There's no plan for getting ~5,500 people house…

I don't want status quo, but I also don't want them housed. I want the ones that steal, rape, squat in parks, do drugs, sell drugs, defecate in public, and litter to all be thrown in jail.

You should watch last weekend's episode of Last Week Tonight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liptMbjF3EE

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Post by gumby »

reaperducer wrote: post #88
gumby wrote: post #78

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This is the reason politicians get salaries.

The vast majority of elected offices in the United States are unpaid.

Given many are at the municipal and school board level I suppose that’s true, but they are barely “politicians”. For example Palo Alto has professional management and then an unpaid city council (they take turns being mayor). There are no political parties.

How well does this work? It’s a mixed bag. The professional managers get things done but managed to build a little empire (lots of middle management) which is now hard to dislodge. The non-professional council members couldn’t keep up. Also there are waves of the real estate interest taking over the council for a while and screwing up priorities.

Compared to that, a few who were on the job full time might have been better.

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Post by irthomasthomas »

VRay wrote: post #59
PKop wrote: post #41

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https://covid19.healthdata.org/japan?view=daily-deaths&tab=t... Basically no lockdown other than shutting down bars at 8 PM, plenty of exposure between proximity to China and super-crowded trains The difference between Japan and the USA is their ubiquitous mask use We went on a 20 year jihad over a single 9/11's worth of preventable deaths in the USA, and yet we can't be bothered to take any action when we're racking…

Are you serious? Japan has THE HIGHEST life expectancy in the world! And America is ranked 34. Maybe your source isn't very honest, if they failed to point this out?

https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/japan-life-expectancy

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Post by busymom0 »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #212
busymom0 wrote: post #95

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Gun control is over in Virginia at least. The Lt. Governor's election campaign was her at a gun range. And Governor Youngkin is also pro-2A. When 25.8% of the shootings are coming from Chicago which has just 0.8% population, maybe it's time to focus on gangs instead of making life miserable for legal gun owners.

When 15% of world gun deaths are coming from the USA which has just 4.25% of the world population, perhaps it's time to focus on national level issues instead of using excuses.

> gun deaths

That's a meaningless stat. The point of my Chicago stat is that vast majority of the shootings are coming from gang members. A gang member shooting another gang member isn't a relevant stat. And shootings in self defence is one of the purposes of owning a gun (though not what the 2A is only for).

That's like saying my daughter would be safer to live in my home country India where she may not get shot but she may get raped late at night. Or like saying Afghanistan is safer somehow?

Estimated 800,000 to 2.45 million defensive uses of firearms per year in 1993 national survey.

https://www.cga.ct.gov/PS94/rpt/olr/htm/94-R-0798.htm

Another 2008 study by National Academy of Sciences showed 500,000 to more than 3 million "Defensive Use of Guns". Simply having the gun on your or brandishing it prevented crimes from happening. This was in 2008. That numbers is even higher now.

Source:

https://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3

Page 15 of the study talks about the defensive use part. You can download the PDF by using the "guest" option and entering any random email (doesn't have to be real). Another related source:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/04/30/that-time-...

> "Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008."

> "In 1996, 1997, and 1998, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) conducted large-scale surveys asking about defensive gun use (DGU) in four to six states. Analysis of the raw data allows the estimation of the prevalence of DGU for those areas. Estimates based on CDC’s surveys confirm estimates for the same sets of states based on data from the 1993 National Self-Defense Survey (Kleck and Gertz 1995). Extrapolated to the U.S. as a whole CDC’s survey data imply that defensive uses of guns by crime victims are far more common than offensive uses by criminals. CDC has never reported these results."

> "One CDC official in the 1990s openly told the Washington Post that his goal was to create a public perception of gun ownership as something “dirty, deadly — and banned.” Given that history, I can’t dismiss Kleck’s critique."

How do you propose these people - wives/daughters/elderly/handicapped/living close to cartels/over 800K-3 million defensive uses should defend themselves?

Also, U.S. has world’s highest rate of children living in single-parent households, something which is well known for kids to grow up into criminals:

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/12/12/u-s-childre...

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Post by irthomasthomas »

davidw wrote: post #244
irthomasthomas wrote: post #236

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"Penetration of cloth masks by particles was almost 97% and medical masks 44%" (For medical professionals) https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577.long Why does everyone promote cloth masks, instead of proper N95 masks?

In Italy (we visited relatives this summer), everyone was wearing surgical masks, with some N95 here and there. No one had cloth masks. Surgical masks are cheap and easy to make and a country as wealthy as the US could ensure that everyone has an ample supply. We could probably even do that with N95's at this point.

Surgical masks are cloth masks.
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