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Some people here already crowned this as the Zoom killer. Really?! Have they ever used Zoom?! Zoom is an ecosystem now - unlike FaceTime, which is the typical walled garden of Apple!
> Zoom is an ecosystem now What is in this ecosystem other than video calling? I use it everyday but didn't realise that there was an ecosystem around it.
[0]: https://zoom.us/docs/en-us/zoom-apps.html
[1]: https://on.zoom.us/
Some people here already crowned this as the Zoom killer. Really?! Have they ever used Zoom?! Zoom is an ecosystem now - unlike FaceTime, which is the typical walled garden of Apple!
How is Zoom an ecosystem? I was more than a year to the pandemic before joining the first Zoom meeting, to me it all seems to be Teams/Meet/Jitsi. Which obviously is a very biased view too, and just to suggest the Zoom dominance is probably only in your own circles.
[0]: https://zoom.us/docs/en-us/zoom-apps.html
[1]: https://on.zoom.us/
Wow. That is unexpected. I have to say that FaceTime in a browser sandbox is one of the few Apple products I would consider using. I wonder what made them take this path? I also wonder if someone could build a Matrix bridge if it is available via web, that would be fairly cool. Some questions: - Is it phone-number based IDs? Or can I pick a username or get a random ID? - Is spam going to be a problem? Previous Apple…
I spend a lot of time on my PC for streams/gaming, and I put up with music.apple.com because I'm normally a happy subscriber using my iPhone.
But the website is just terrible.
- I get logged out if I don't visit for a day which requires a whole 2FA dance. Why not just leave me logged in?
- If I am still "logged in" after some hours, all songs become "previews" and I can't actually listen to anything. The fix is to log out and log back in, and it's a dice roll whether I'll get to do the 2FA dance again
- Songs routinely just don't play when I click them. Only fix seems to be leaving the album that I'm looking at and then returning to the same page
- Navigating away from albums occasionally makes Chrome pop up a "you have unsaved changes" warning. Why?
But also, web wins again. Your iMessage/Facetime isn't anything special, never was.
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The email we are discussing specifically says they want to prevent customers from buying their competitors products for their friends and family.
I don't know if they use the word "prevent" or not, but we both know that they are not in fact trying to literally "prevent" anyone from buying an Android phone. They just don't want to give them some of the benefits of iOS if they do so. No reasonable person would call that "prevent".
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> illegal besides being immoral and a literal F-U to your consumers, it can bring anti trust cases when you are as big as Apple. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in But other than that, well, just go celebrate your $2 gain on your APPL stocks despite the fact you were prohibited to call 50% of your friends just so someone couldn't save a few bucks when buying a phone for their teenage kid. Go you!
I think it's funny that Android users are so angry with Apple for not releasing iMessage and FaceTime for Android. How dare Apple not make their communications platforms even more dominant! Not having iMessage on Android is immoral! Not having FaceTime on Android is "a literal F-U" to their customers! I think it's funny because Apple left a decade-long opening for Google to build equally good Android alternatives to…
i think it is a closed solution that sucks just like all the others.
i think every single one of those lock-in-for-profit platform only attract idiots (in the original greek work meaning of the word) and makes true open solutions that will ultimately help everyone slower to show up. Because eventually they will.
Wow. That is unexpected. I have to say that FaceTime in a browser sandbox is one of the few Apple products I would consider using. I wonder what made them take this path? I also wonder if someone could build a Matrix bridge if it is available via web, that would be fairly cool. Some questions: - Is it phone-number based IDs? Or can I pick a username or get a random ID? - Is spam going to be a problem? Previous Apple…
> I wonder what made them take this path? it was literally an email that surface on the Epic store litigation, where one Apple exec says (quote from memory) "We can't have facetime for android because that will remove the barrier for families to buy Android phones for their kids" So it will be crappy and have TONS of limitations (wouldn't be surprised it it only work with one apple device hosting) because it is only…
Remember how Steve Jobs promised at WWDC 2010 that FaceTime would be an "open industry standard?"
It sounded like we'd have a standard for video calls across all phones.
Still waiting for that, but this is a step in the right direction!
Wow. That is unexpected. I have to say that FaceTime in a browser sandbox is one of the few Apple products I would consider using. I wonder what made them take this path? I also wonder if someone could build a Matrix bridge if it is available via web, that would be fairly cool. Some questions: - Is it phone-number based IDs? Or can I pick a username or get a random ID? - Is spam going to be a problem? Previous Apple…
Perhaps noticing that everyone was using Zoom during the pandemic?
Remember originally Steve Jobs promised that FaceTime would be an "open standard." For some reason Apple backed off on that.
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It's no different than Hangouts. We got fed misleading headlines about how it was KILLED for years, but it seems like as far as users are concerned, it'll just be a UI change. Behind the scene they are migrating it to Chat, but all your chats and contacts and histogram will be migrated over. I would assume something similar with Duo. It'll probably change look and get merged into Meet, but it'll probably still be mor…
As a Fi user, they did kill Hangouts for me. I can't use it for SMS and its only other advantage is it takes up a large chunk of my gmail tab. Why should I use it?