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Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

#331
In a nutshell, what reason is left to prefer Pidgin over using a more modern protocol like Matrix with the Element client and bridging to legacy services as necessary?

All the FAQ for Matrix offers on this point is the ability to unify ones identity across services.

Anything else?

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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I dunno.. I guess I just follow what people use... IRC ICQ MSN Yahoo messenger for some people in japan Whatsapp, but noboday was there haha Whastapp, some people there FB Messenger iMessage, but bugs with normals SMS, so disabled it Google talk.. used by some, but I like to de-google a bit. Back to whatsapp kakaotalk, line, and wechat for research / gaming Telegram. don't like it at all Signal. kind of buggy So in t…

I followed the same path. Also used Jabber a bit, AOL Messenger, Blackberry messenger, Bloomberg Messenger (bank paid 2k per month for it!), Skype for messaging, Keybase (kind of cool but too heavy), Slack, and now Element Matrix. Its one place sometimes I think regulation might be good to force standardization (like electricity or phone standards). Oh and when I go to asia I use the ones there - viber, line, wechat…

For me it was

IRC

ICQ

AIM

Trillian

Skype

Slack (just co-workers)

Discord (just co-workers that are friends now)

Must be like over a 30 year period of time.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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I had no idea Pidgin still worked. I see support for WhatsApp and Signal, going to check it out now!

Last commit seems to be pretty old (~5 years) https://github.com/davidgfnet/whatsapp-purple/

The nice thing about modular, open source software, is that instead of using the 5 year old client, you can use the one that was last updated two months ago:

https://github.com/hoehermann/purple-gowhatsapp/

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

#334

In a nutshell, what reason is left to prefer Pidgin over using a more modern protocol like Matrix with the Element client and bridging to legacy services as necessary? All the FAQ for Matrix offers on this point is the ability to unify ones identity across services. Anything else?

Pidgin is a client for many protocols. Matrix being one of them.

I suggest you actually click on the link and scroll down to the table.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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a completely different story: when steam engines were replaced with the otto motor and cars became available to the general population, people were able to repair and understand the engines themselves. they had an understanding of mechanical principles. a few generations later, and only car nerds understand cars. everyone else has to go to a mechanic to understand why their car's engine won't start or why it sounds s…

Okay but people who aren't mechanics, but drive, still know how to do things like turn the car on, and understand that if they turn the steering wheel right, the wheels point to the right. They understand that the car needs gas, even if they don't really know why it needs gas. People who don't know how to use computers treat them like a magic box that may or may not do what they want to, if they use the right magical…

I think you’d be surprised just how much new car owners/drivers do not know about how to work a car. The number of people I’ve seen confused by how to fill a gas tank — let alone what type of gas to use, is massive. And it’ll only get worse as we move to electric and self-driving cars.

And then there is the stuff that is often different car to car, like where lights are, how to adjust certain settings. Want to pair the Bluetooth in your Mercedes to your phone? I consider myself extremely proficient at computers and absolutely know how to use one in almost any capacity and even I’ve struggled with its lunacy (which is much more a reflection on Mercedes bad in-car systems that vary model year to model year and can differ based on what options your dealer ordered).

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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a completely different story: when steam engines were replaced with the otto motor and cars became available to the general population, people were able to repair and understand the engines themselves. they had an understanding of mechanical principles. a few generations later, and only car nerds understand cars. everyone else has to go to a mechanic to understand why their car's engine won't start or why it sounds s…

No, it's terrifying. A computer is something you can use to consume content or produce content. A tablet is something you can only really use to consume content. (Regular tablet, not artist tablet obviously, and those generally have to talk to a computer)

I'm not sure what's terrifying about that. Books can only be used to consume content too.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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post #4

I had no idea Pidgin still worked. I see support for WhatsApp and Signal, going to check it out now!

I used it for years up until about two years ago. The UI is from ca. 2000, it is okay for one on one chat and that’s about it. I honestly like IRC clients much better. The world has been taken over by slack and its clones for a reason.

Personally, I prefer an application that supports advanced features like opening multiple windows.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Of course, and we'll new dominant players in 5 years. My point is just that none of these do anything radically different from IRC. Channel-based as the primary mode (as opposed to direct) is a bit of paradigm shift in terms of UX, but it's just a veneer on group chats that have existed forever. And obviously, they've all been adapted to web/smartphones as opposed to terminal. But in terms of what kind of communicati…

Wow, you could send videos, pictures, and markdown on your Commodore?

They did make modems for the Commodore, yes...

The big obstacle to sending video back in those days was one of bandwidth and storage space - it's not difficult to add to the protocols. IRC is a pretty well-known client for easily sending files - it's purely a design decision not to display them in-line like Discord and Slack.

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Does nobody remember Pidgin? It was one of the first things a lot of people installed on their machines 15 years ago along with Firefox. We used it as an alternative client to AOL Instant Messenger and Yahoo Messenger. It used to be called GAIM.

Does not everyone still use it? I and most of my friends do. They are also responsible for my favorite bug report ever: https://bugs.gentoo.org/35890

I literally haven’t used Adium in five years. Whenever Google deprecated XMPP from gchat and Apple killed iChat, there went my decade plus of daily Adium usage (and Gaim before that).

Re: Pidgin – A Universal Chat Client

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Oh yes, let’s leave power to those who know the best, they will make what is right for everybody. History heavily confirm this pattern.

amusing how it is nearly always someone in the in-group making this decision, that everyone else does not need or deserve access to something but i do as a member of this group. tale as old as plato “discovering” the ideal form of government was a bunch of philosophers telling everyone else what to do.

To be in the 'in' group you could always invest the time and learn how to use computers. We're actually a pretty welcoming bunch :)
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